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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:42 pm to moneyg
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:42 pm to moneyg
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It may not be your belief (or one that you admit to), but it is certainly only a belief.
So is faith in Christianity so everything even and back to 0
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:42 pm to the808bass
quote:You got me. I misspelled Ark.
The Ark of that story is incredible.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:42 pm to FooManChoo
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Jesus became a human being to be our representative and die the death we deserve for our sins. He is our substitute through faith, not the substitute for non-human life forms.
We don't often agree, but we do here 100%
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:43 pm to DocYatesVA
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"The Genesis Creation Narrative, while accurate, is incomplete
Please do tell us how it is inaccurate
I did not say this. In fact, I said exactly the opposite.
What is it about this topic that causes otherwise intelligent people to suddenly not be able to read and shite?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:45 pm to Powerman
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Looks like you're guessing again
Guessing, I read the text and logic leads one to believe that could lead there. While it is centered on the Gentiles it also would extend to others. God's Grace is for all. So why would it limit it to just the gentiles?
If God wants ALL to be saved, and He created the entire universe, why would ALL stop at our atmosphere? To say God only cares about Earth makes Him a "local god," not the Creator of the Universe.
^^^^^^^deductive reasoning^^^^^^^^
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:48 pm to aubie101
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If God wants ALL to be saved, and He created the entire universe, why would ALL stop at our atmosphere?
Exactly. It's a problem.
You're raising the very issues I'm trying to raise.
Your default position is the issue.
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To say God only cares about Earth makes Him a "local god," not the Creator of the Universe.
I mean, again, the Bible is human-based. Jesus was in human form. Clearly God treats humans different than all non-human life.
Which is exactly why the concept of aliens raises so many questions.
In addition to what was just posted above, we can revisit this:
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A better question is how significant a fact/variable would need to be in order to have an impact on Christianity by being left out of the Bible
A new holy book?
A new savior?
A proclamation of polytheism?
Clearly these would significantly change Christianity as it's understood on Earth, correct?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:53 pm to UtahCajun
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Who do you think?
The Creator; God.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:54 pm to AlterEd
Well the Bible is as accurate as the telephone game.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:55 pm to moneyg
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You've accidentally admitted that you atheists are all just believers of a different kind.
Atheists tell you exactly the same thing that theists tell you, only in different terms. Which, to me, only reaffirms my belief in God. Creation is so stupendous that we can't even come up with concepts that don't say the same thing about it.
Pete Davidson explains it well.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If God wants ALL to be saved, and He created the entire universe, why would ALL stop at our atmosphere?
Exactly. It's a problem.
You're raising the very issues I'm trying to raise.
Your default position is the issue.
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To say God only cares about Earth makes Him a "local god," not the Creator of the Universe.
I mean, again, the Bible is human-based. Jesus was in human form. Clearly God treats humans different than all non-human life.
Which is exactly why the concept of aliens raises so many questions.
In addition to what was just posted above, we can revisit this:
quote:
A better question is how significant a fact/variable would need to be in order to have an impact on Christianity by being left out of the Bible
A new holy book?
A new savior?
A proclamation of polytheism?
Clearly these would significantly change Christianity as it's understood on Earth, correct?
The problem is only there if you think God is tiny.Just because the Bible is human-focused doesn't mean God is human-only. It’s like a doctor’s manual for humans,it doesn't mention how to treat a dog, but that doesn't mean the doctor thinks dogs don't exist. Jesus took human form to reach us, because that’s the deal He has with us.Saying God can’t have a relationship with aliens just because He’s busy with humans is like saying a father can’t love his second kid because he’s too focused on the first. It’s not guessing to say an infinite Creator has enough room in His heart for more than one species.
Expand on my deflaut questions if you want me to expand if still confused.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:57 pm to AlterEd
So they are calling on Bible prophecy teachers to advise the church? Lol, I'm out!
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:00 pm to oldtrucker
I hope Paula White was briefed at the highest level. She’s such a gem. /s
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:01 pm to METAL
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I hope Paula White was briefed at the highest level. She’s such a gem. /s
We are all doomed if that nut is involved.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:08 pm to NashvilleTider
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I don’t doubt there was a meeting - but I just want to know who is telling them all of this? The fact it happened in east tn makes me wonder if it was Burchett
Right on cue
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It doesn't disprove that a god can exist, or even, theoretically, the Christian god. It does make the Bible a major issue, though, and opens up the door for justifications for religions like Islam and Mormonism, because, effectively, lots of important stuff apparently can be left out of the Bible.
SFP, where was the New Testament bible at the time of crucification? Thirty years later? A century later? In the year 300? Were those books magically just placed in a binder with blank pages?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:18 pm to aubie101
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Just because the Bible is human-focused doesn't mean God is human-only.
Where do we learn God's teachings/commandments to non-humans given outside of the Bible?
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Jesus took human form to reach us, because that’s the deal He has with us.
So we're onto the "multiple messiah" hypothesis again?
Do you realize how that raises many more questions than the ones you think you're answering?
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It’s not guessing to say an infinite Creator has enough room in His heart for more than one species.
Nobody is debating this.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:19 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Were those books magically just placed in a binder with blank pages?
They were written by men.
Many books of the same religion/philosophy were written by men in that period. A few select ones were chosen by men as canon. The majority were excluded by those same men.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:27 pm to aubie101
Have you read the bible?
No mention of life anywhere but on earth
No mention of life anywhere but on earth
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Just because the Bible is human-focused doesn't mean God is human-only.
Where do we learn God's teachings/commandments to non-humans given outside of the Bible?
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Jesus took human form to reach us, because that’s the deal He has with us.
So we're onto the "multiple messiah" hypothesis again?
Do you realize how that raises many more questions than the ones you think you're answering?
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It’s not guessing to say an infinite Creator has enough room in His heart for more than one species.
Nobody is debating this.
The multiple messiahs thing is just you overcomplicating it.. If God is infinite, he doesn’t need a commitee or a repeat button.. He just needs to be God..
We dontknow the rules he gave others for the same reason you don't know the private talk a father has with your brother.. its none of your buisness.. The Bible is our set of house rules.. If he has other sheep like he said in John 10:16, he can talk to them however he wants without asking us for permision..
The idea that he’d need multiple messiahs asumes he's limited by geography.. If Christ is the Creator of the whole universe, his one sacrifice covers the whole universe.. A king doesntneed to visit every single house to make a law count for the whole kingdom.. One God, one sacrifice, and one truth is enough for a billion planets.. Why do you think an infinite God would be forced to repeat himself?
EDIT-This isnt special pleading or moving the goalposts.. its just basic deductive logic.. If the premise is that God is the infinite Creator of everything, then the conclusion has to be that he isn't limited by our planet or our book (our way to salvation, a guide book)..
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:44 pm to aubie101
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The idea that he’d need multiple messiahs asumes he's limited by geography.. If Christ is the Creator of the whole universe, his one sacrifice covers the whole universe.. A king doesntneed to visit every single house to make a law count for the whole kingdom.. One God, one sacrifice, and one truth is enough for a billion planets.. Why do you think an infinite God would be forced to repeat himself?
This is kinda ridiculous when Christian's also tend to believe that in order to be saved one must know of Jesus and his sacrifice and accept him as their savior. A billion planets? You think people on a billion different planets are going to know about Jesus of Nazareth dying on a cross on some planet light years away from where they reside? Of course not. Most of humanity lived and died before Jesus was ever born. Even they know nothing of his sacrifice, let alone someone living on the 3rd rock from Alfa Centauri.
No, if (and this is a big if here as I don't believe they do) aliens come from some distant planet and they are spiritual beings, they won't come believing in Jesus. They'll know nothing of him. They would also likely be more advanced than we are, and this would probably include matters of spirituality too, because I would assume they have figured out how to stop fighting wars on their home planet and if human experience is any indicator religion tends to be the main tool the PTB use to get the plebs to fight with one another.
If aliens came here from some distant planet and wanted to talk about spirituality, they would probably echo Jesus's sentiments regarding how to live ones life while also telling folks it is but one path. They would preach true religion, rather than dogma.
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