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re: Recordings Reveal Lockstep COVID-19 Protocols, Patient Isolation by Hospitals

Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:42 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111803 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:42 pm to
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And barely break even with DRGs


Yes. With hospital math.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111803 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:43 pm to
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Hospitals restricted visitors to patients with communicable respiratory diseases. No one was denied phone access, and I’ve never been in a hospital that didn’t have an in-room phone.


Lol. “Hey I know your mom is dying, but you can totally talk to her on the phone. We have phones!”
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15058 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:45 pm to
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Lol. “Hey I know your mom is dying, but you can totally talk to her on the phone. We have phones!”




…and then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28915 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:46 pm to
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Unless you think every healthcare provider in the country is unethical,


I don't think they are unethical. They do what they are told. Today's Doctors never do any of there own research.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111803 posts
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:51 pm to
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then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks


Sure. But plenty of hospitals did.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3064 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:58 am to
Exactly what killed a friend of mine in July. Denial of intravenous fluids and inducement of Remdesivir destroyed his kidneys.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10156 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:22 am to
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…and then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks

Wherever that happened was a rare thing indeed.

All hospitals around me allowed NO visitors...period. Many died with no one but hospital staff with them.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49169 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:57 am to
Imagine the horror of going into a room where the patient has an illness with a 99.997% survival rate
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
4296 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:36 am to
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No question there’s been tons of nonsense since this all started. No question there has been overreach on the government’s part under the guise of healthcare. But I’m actually having problems reading this article and matching it to the problems I’m seeing- this seems like it is written from someone who does not fully understand what they’re dealing with. And maybe systems and events need to change (good gosh I could talk about changes I want to see). But they weren’t created or a result of all of this. They were minor modifications to a complex machine that I’m fairly certain not one person fully understands.

The problem is the complete lack of transparency at any of these steps. It is funny how they hide behind medical privacy here but not you are trying to eat a meal
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24926 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:19 am to
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Every hospital is owned by a corporation that is profit driven.


Government money has been a lifeline for hospitals since this pandemic started. They need it for survival and they cannot risk getting cut off.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32527 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:30 am to
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Government money has been a lifeline for hospitals since this pandemic started. They need it for survival and they cannot risk getting cut off.


Didn't start with it. Look up Hill-Burton Act. Government money has always been important to hospitals.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35241 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:31 am to
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But overall, in the real world, I haven’t seen a ton of people “lose faith”

in me, (this illustrates your character)

my practice, (you chose wisely)

or my profession. (I can only speak to the area in which I live, but I have been grossly disappointed in the medical profession. The reasons are many. In short, I have lost respect for some friends as a result of how they have managed things).
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35241 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:34 am to
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Government money has always been important to hospitals.


Wouldn’t it have been even more pronounced without elective procedures being done? I am not overly familiar with the inner workings of hospitals, but some on here have stated that those procedures are / were money-making procedures for the hospitals. Is that info incorrect?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32527 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:45 am to
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Wouldn’t it have been even more pronounced without elective procedures being done? I am not overly familiar with the inner workings of hospitals, but some on here have stated that those procedures are / were money-making procedures for the hospitals. Is that info incorrect?

Yes - cancelation of elective procedures during the height of hospital admissions caused a serious strain on hospitals and staff. Hospital lost money but idol staff were pulled into acute care settings with which they had never worked or hadn't worked in a long time. I suspect some went home rather going into to covid units.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3792 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:48 am to
Docs lost their autonomy years ago when they sold their practices to medical corps and became employees. Doc in the box is a real thing.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32527 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:57 am to
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Docs lost their autonomy years ago when they sold their practices to medical corps and became employees. Doc in the box is a real thing.

My PCP is in one of these organizations. They have a bunch of urgent care centers but a few primary care facilities. I think they have always been owned by one of the larger providers going back probably 30 years or more. I don't know the primary motivator for selling your practice to someone much bigger but I suspect not have the headache of operating a back office being a huge motivator. It can be quite onerous and you can easily lose your arse if you don't have good coding and billing folks. Economies of scale play a big part, IMHO.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29349 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:27 am to
My cousin died two months ago from COVID-related complications and his family was barred from seeing him in person, which likely contributed to him going downhill.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24193 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:40 am to
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a randomized, controlled trial of remdesivir and other therapies for Ebola, published in the New England Journal of Medicine and touted by Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to the president, actually showed the dangers of remdesivir, as the scientists stopped administering it during the study because it was leading to a mortality rate above 50 percent—higher than any of the other drugs they tested.


Remdesivir was a cure that was looking for a disease, which I’ve said since it first got the EUA to be used for CoviD.

All that R&D money from Gilead, and it failed spectacularly in the fight against the viruses for which it was designed (Hep. C and RSV) and against the backup plan. (Ebola).

The WHO recommended, a year ago, against the use of Remdesivir for CoviD. Wild!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96921 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:43 am to
Yes.


A lot of the people pushing this are likely bean counters who wouldn’t know a diode from a dildo and who want a maximum return on treating patients for their own bottom line.

The really evil ones are the ones who know this shite doesn’t work and still force everyone to go through with it.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35183 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:52 am to
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He also stated that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is “bribing hospitals” to choose remdesivir with a 20 percent bonus. CMS’s website does, in fact, refer to a “20% add-on payment” for claims coding for COVID-19 and for treatment by remdesivir or several other drugs.



So, essentially, they are offering a 'bounty' for hospitals to treat Covid with a drug that increases chances of death by 50%, and reporting said death as Covid, to up the numbers?

I read on Yahoo News this morning that 30% of Republicans believe that "violence will be required" to address the current political/ideological/cultural scenario in the US. Not hard to see why; this is 'Hitler-esque'.

Every Poster here who jumps the Vaccine/Booster ship, had better get in touch with their Doctor and NAIL DOWN what said Doctor's orders to the Hospital will be...BEFORE one gets (the next CCP 'Variant') Covid. Hesitation on this will up the risk for death ante big time. The Left requires bodies to retain power, as votes will be getting harder to come by.

"Wickedness in high places".
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