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re: Recordings Reveal Lockstep COVID-19 Protocols, Patient Isolation by Hospitals
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:42 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:42 pm to Diamondawg
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And barely break even with DRGs
Yes. With hospital math.
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:43 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Hospitals restricted visitors to patients with communicable respiratory diseases. No one was denied phone access, and I’ve never been in a hospital that didn’t have an in-room phone.
Lol. “Hey I know your mom is dying, but you can totally talk to her on the phone. We have phones!”
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:45 pm to the808bass
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Lol. “Hey I know your mom is dying, but you can totally talk to her on the phone. We have phones!”
…and then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:46 pm to Diamondawg
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Unless you think every healthcare provider in the country is unethical,
I don't think they are unethical. They do what they are told. Today's Doctors never do any of there own research.
Posted on 10/31/21 at 10:51 pm to Hopeful Doc
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then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks
Sure. But plenty of hospitals did.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 12:58 am to conservativewifeymom
Exactly what killed a friend of mine in July. Denial of intravenous fluids and inducement of Remdesivir destroyed his kidneys.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 1:22 am to Hopeful Doc
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…and then I explained that we never turned anyone away from visiting when a patient was dying but attempted to keep the groups small and make sure they understood the risks
Wherever that happened was a rare thing indeed.
All hospitals around me allowed NO visitors...period. Many died with no one but hospital staff with them.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 3:57 am to DMAN1968
Imagine the horror of going into a room where the patient has an illness with a 99.997% survival rate
Posted on 11/1/21 at 5:36 am to Hopeful Doc
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No question there’s been tons of nonsense since this all started. No question there has been overreach on the government’s part under the guise of healthcare. But I’m actually having problems reading this article and matching it to the problems I’m seeing- this seems like it is written from someone who does not fully understand what they’re dealing with. And maybe systems and events need to change (good gosh I could talk about changes I want to see). But they weren’t created or a result of all of this. They were minor modifications to a complex machine that I’m fairly certain not one person fully understands.
The problem is the complete lack of transparency at any of these steps. It is funny how they hide behind medical privacy here but not you are trying to eat a meal
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:19 am to DaleDenton
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Every hospital is owned by a corporation that is profit driven.
Government money has been a lifeline for hospitals since this pandemic started. They need it for survival and they cannot risk getting cut off.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:30 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:Didn't start with it. Look up Hill-Burton Act. Government money has always been important to hospitals.
Government money has been a lifeline for hospitals since this pandemic started. They need it for survival and they cannot risk getting cut off.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:31 am to Hopeful Doc
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But overall, in the real world, I haven’t seen a ton of people “lose faith”
in me, (this illustrates your character)
my practice, (you chose wisely)
or my profession. (I can only speak to the area in which I live, but I have been grossly disappointed in the medical profession. The reasons are many. In short, I have lost respect for some friends as a result of how they have managed things).
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:34 am to Diamondawg
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Government money has always been important to hospitals.
Wouldn’t it have been even more pronounced without elective procedures being done? I am not overly familiar with the inner workings of hospitals, but some on here have stated that those procedures are / were money-making procedures for the hospitals. Is that info incorrect?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:45 am to jimmy the leg
quote:Yes - cancelation of elective procedures during the height of hospital admissions caused a serious strain on hospitals and staff. Hospital lost money but idol staff were pulled into acute care settings with which they had never worked or hadn't worked in a long time. I suspect some went home rather going into to covid units.
Wouldn’t it have been even more pronounced without elective procedures being done? I am not overly familiar with the inner workings of hospitals, but some on here have stated that those procedures are / were money-making procedures for the hospitals. Is that info incorrect?
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:48 am to Diamondawg
Docs lost their autonomy years ago when they sold their practices to medical corps and became employees. Doc in the box is a real thing.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 6:57 am to iron banks
quote:My PCP is in one of these organizations. They have a bunch of urgent care centers but a few primary care facilities. I think they have always been owned by one of the larger providers going back probably 30 years or more. I don't know the primary motivator for selling your practice to someone much bigger but I suspect not have the headache of operating a back office being a huge motivator. It can be quite onerous and you can easily lose your arse if you don't have good coding and billing folks. Economies of scale play a big part, IMHO.
Docs lost their autonomy years ago when they sold their practices to medical corps and became employees. Doc in the box is a real thing.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:27 am to conservativewifeymom
My cousin died two months ago from COVID-related complications and his family was barred from seeing him in person, which likely contributed to him going downhill.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:40 am to conservativewifeymom
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a randomized, controlled trial of remdesivir and other therapies for Ebola, published in the New England Journal of Medicine and touted by Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to the president, actually showed the dangers of remdesivir, as the scientists stopped administering it during the study because it was leading to a mortality rate above 50 percent—higher than any of the other drugs they tested.
Remdesivir was a cure that was looking for a disease, which I’ve said since it first got the EUA to be used for CoviD.
All that R&D money from Gilead, and it failed spectacularly in the fight against the viruses for which it was designed (Hep. C and RSV) and against the backup plan. (Ebola).
The WHO recommended, a year ago, against the use of Remdesivir for CoviD. Wild!
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:43 am to deltaland
Yes.
A lot of the people pushing this are likely bean counters who wouldn’t know a diode from a dildo and who want a maximum return on treating patients for their own bottom line.
The really evil ones are the ones who know this shite doesn’t work and still force everyone to go through with it.
A lot of the people pushing this are likely bean counters who wouldn’t know a diode from a dildo and who want a maximum return on treating patients for their own bottom line.
The really evil ones are the ones who know this shite doesn’t work and still force everyone to go through with it.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 8:52 am to conservativewifeymom
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He also stated that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is “bribing hospitals” to choose remdesivir with a 20 percent bonus. CMS’s website does, in fact, refer to a “20% add-on payment” for claims coding for COVID-19 and for treatment by remdesivir or several other drugs.
So, essentially, they are offering a 'bounty' for hospitals to treat Covid with a drug that increases chances of death by 50%, and reporting said death as Covid, to up the numbers?
I read on Yahoo News this morning that 30% of Republicans believe that "violence will be required" to address the current political/ideological/cultural scenario in the US. Not hard to see why; this is 'Hitler-esque'.
Every Poster here who jumps the Vaccine/Booster ship, had better get in touch with their Doctor and NAIL DOWN what said Doctor's orders to the Hospital will be...BEFORE one gets (the next CCP 'Variant') Covid. Hesitation on this will up the risk for death ante big time. The Left requires bodies to retain power, as votes will be getting harder to come by.
"Wickedness in high places".
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