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Reasonable Changes to Louisiana Science Educational Act (LSEA) Will Attract Businesses

Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:17 am
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:17 am
Louisiana’s official position, via the 2008 Louisiana Science Education Act (LSEA, Act 473), permits public school teachers to use supplemental materials that critique or question established scientific theories like evolution.

Evolution is one of the most robust theories in biology, backed by fossils, genetics (e.g., shared endogenous retroviruses, chromosome 2 fusion), comparative anatomy, and observed mechanisms.

From a scientific/evidence-based perspective, the probability that humans evolved from microbial ancestors over ~3.8–4 billion years is effectively 100% (or as close to certainty as science gets).

The alternative—that humans were created by God in one instant act (e.g., the creation theory in Genesis)—has a probability of essentially 0% under empirical methods.

I understand Genesis may be an allegory and is not to be taken at face value (because it was written by men). However the LSEA allows the propagation of theories not supported by any evidence.

I support changes to the LSEA to ensure public schools. If you want to attract large businesses (Amazon, Google, etc.) you have to entice them with common sense educational reforms. Their CEOs and workers are not going to want to put their children in our schools.
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:49 am to
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From a scientific/evidence-based perspective, the probability that humans From a scientific/evidence-based perspective, the probability that humans evolved from microbial ancestors over ~3.8–4 billion years is effectively 100% (or as close to certainty as science gets). (or as close to certainty as science gets).


Wrong. It might be true, but the science absolutely does not establish this. You’re projecting your beliefs, which is also demonstrated by the next thing you said.

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The alternative—that humans were created by God in one instant act (e.g., the creation theory in Genesis)—has a probability of essentially 0% under empirical methods.


No scientist says this including the many SCIENTISTS who are critical of the current evolutionary theory. The fact that you framed the discussion this way shows either lack of integrity or lack of knowledge of the subject and the science.
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:50 am to
And yet we will still suck as a state as far as money and politicks! But I still love my state!
Posted by Onyx Aggie
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:09 am to
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permits public school teachers to use supplemental materials that critique or question established scientific theories like evolution.
In your mind, this is what is keeping major companies from doing business in LA? Setting aside the fact that both Google and Amazon have multi-billion dollar projects and presence in LA, the idea that teachers can present points of view contrary to current established scientific understanding of some topic is keeping business at bay is basically retarded.
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:18 am to
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In your mind, this is what is keeping major companies from doing business in LA? Setting aside the fact that both Google and Amazon have multi-billion dollar projects and presence in LA, the idea that teachers can present points of view contrary to current established scientific understanding of some topic is keeping business at bay is basically retarded.
In the long term, yes. We have to aspire to bring major company HQs here. This requires more than economic benefits.

Updating this law will signal to businesses that the state is committed to producing a highly skilled, STEM-literate workforce essential for innovation-driven industries like technology, biotechnology, engineering, and advanced manufacturing, thereby enhancing economic competitiveness and attractiveness for relocation or expansion.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:19 am to
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the probability that humans evolved from microbial ancestors over ~3.8–4 billion years is effectively 100% (or as close to certainty as science gets).



And the probability that life spontaneously popped into existence to kick off the evolutionary process is about 1 in 10^40,000

Posted by RFK
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:26 am to
What event are you referring to, specifically?
Posted by Venelar
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:29 am to
Their CEO’s and high earners are likely going the private (religious) school route anyway.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:29 am to
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What event are you referring to, specifically?



Inorganic to organic, you frikken fool. . .
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5109 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:29 am to
Businesses are sitting around saying, “Well, Louisiana has the workforce and tax breaks we need to invest there, but, dammit, they teach that darned creationism in their schools.”

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:33 am to
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Evolution is one of the most robust theories in biology,

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1. There are many far more robust theories.
2. You seem to have evolution and mutation confused.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:34 am to
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Updating this law will signal to businesses that the state is committed to producing a highly skilled, STEM-literate workforce essential for innovation-driven industries like technology, biotechnology, engineering, and advanced manufacturing, thereby enhancing economic competitiveness and attractiveness for relocation or expansion

Does it even matter if your wife still says that men can be women?
Posted by Onyx Aggie
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:35 am to
This is absolutely true.
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a highly skilled, STEM-literate workforce essential for innovation-driven industries like technology, biotechnology, engineering, and advanced manufacturing, thereby enhancing economic competitiveness and attractiveness for relocation or expansion.

This is absolutely not true.
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Updating this law will signal to businesses that the state is committed to producing a highly skilled, STEM-literate workforce
Scientific consensus must ALWAYS be questioned. Blindly following "consensus" is a big part of what allowed the tyranny behind both global warming and Covid to fester.

Science is not about consensus, it is about replicability, testing the falsifiability of data, and constantly challenging the status quo.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:36 am to
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What event are you referring to, specifically?


The one where complex molecules were formed and then assembled to make the thousands of enzymes required for life.


Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3572 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:36 am to
As annoying as you are I love how you always post these long well thought out and probably time consuming posts and they always just show how ignorant you are.
I guess it’s better you’re wasting your time online trying to sound smart instead of causing harm in the real world
Posted by Bourre
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:52 am to
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RFK


Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3691 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:53 am to
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I support changes to the LSEA to ensure public schools. If you want to attract large businesses (Amazon, Google, etc.) you have to entice them with common sense educational reforms. Their CEOs and workers are not going to want to put their children in our schools.

1. They are already here.
2. They are enticed by long term returns on their investments. Money is the driver, not the lack of dipshits in the school system.
3. The CEOs are sending their kids to private schools anyway, where their kids heads will be filled with religious nonsense, but they will tell them all that stuff isn’t real when the time is right.

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I understand Genesis may be an allegory and is not to be taken at face value (because it was written by men).

What gave it away? The fruit of the knowledge of good and evil? The tree of life? The talking snake?
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3691 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:07 am to
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the probability that humans evolved from microbial ancestors over ~3.8–4 billion years is effectively 100% (or as close to certainty as science gets). (or as close to certainty as science gets).
Wrong. It might be true, but the science absolutely does not establish this.

You’re wrong. What RFK posted that I quoted is established fact.

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the many SCIENTISTS who are critical of the current evolutionary theory.

No such scientists exist. The theory of biological evolution of species is an explanation of the most well supported facts and evidence that exists in the scientific realm.

Your confusion may lie in the arguments that scientists have about the details which are always changing. Did the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees live 3.2 million years ago or was it 4.3 million years ago? That’s the kind of disagreement they have. Did anatomically modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals 5 times or 8 times in Europe? That’s the type of argument. No legit scientist questions the mechanisms nor the universal common ancestor of all known life on earth.

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The fact that you framed the discussion this way shows either lack of integrity or lack of knowledge of the subject and the science.

An example of psychological projection.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3691 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:15 am to
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Evolution is one of the most robust theories in biology, ...
1. There are many far more robust theories.

There aren’t.

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2. You seem to have evolution and mutation confused.

You are the one who is confused, and frankly, not very bright.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:44 am to
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There aren’t.

In biology?

Wow... so not Cell Theory, Germ Theory...

You could look up more.

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You are the one who is confused, and frankly, not very bright.

Coming from you that's a compliment.

Autistics like you conflate mutations with evolution.

You see what everyone knows as mutations, dog breeds for example, or dwarfism in isolated species.

And you then jump to a pair of moronic assumptions that all life must have evolved from a single cell.

You talk out of both autistic sides of your mouth, acting like red states dont believe in genetics or genetic mutation when they push back on the origin of life, while claiming that genetics, mutation etc... exclusively support your origin of life story.
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