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re: Rate cuts isn’t economic policy.Market needs to bleed,cut spending,lifestyles need change

Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:21 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135807 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:21 am to
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$35 Trillion and growing is not sustainable.

... to entice Americans to take out MORE DEBT with lower rates is not economic policy that is beneficial long term.


Stop buying $100k SUVs, and taking vacations on credit cards.

Live within your means.
You're conflating personal debt and government debt.

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If the Fed cuts rates it’s taking advantage of the retard population to entice them into accumulating more crap and putting them further into debt.
Every 0.5% change in interest rates corresponds to a $175BILLION difference in our National Debt cost-of-carry. Recession further cuts revenue.

Meanwhile, we are approaching fiscal dominance.
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
1782 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:41 am to
You'd have to live in the exurbs of Houston to be able to find anything resembling a McMansion for $650k. And Houston is an 'affordable' big city. Maybe in the midwestern suburbs.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85544 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:43 am to
I was so motivated by what you wrote that I just paid extra on my bass boat note. Only 168 more payments now!
Posted by SloppyFrog
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2022
282 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:56 pm to
bullshite.
A kid just starting out gets hit for 1000+ per month in rent for a shite hole apartment
A kid just out of school needs a vehicle to get to that shite job that pays next to nothing. Even if said kid has a freebie beater car, they're still on the hook for outrageous monthly insurance.
That kid still needs to eat. Prices in the grocery store has tripled.


Yes, I agree theres ways to tighten the belt on monthly spending, but it disingenuous to call bullshite on kids today being behind the 8 ball trying to get the ball rolling on their adult life.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2996 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:16 pm to
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This market needs to bleed and bleed to reset.


People need to stop buying on credit and live within their means.



I'm not trying to be anti capitalistic, but when all of yesterday's millionaires (8 digits plus) feel like they need to be billionaires to maintain their status, we have to put blame where it goes.

People have already quit buying name brand and went to great value, etc. Democrats have allowed major corporations to push small business around, but small business is stuffing their pockets too instead of paying their employees.

Biden admin is terrible, and I'm a conservative, but it's just approaching that time in the economic cycle where wages have to catch back up.

All of these celebrities are going around and snatching up all of the real estate thinking they are going to take it all and common folk are going to just rent from them and call them master.

Bit coin is nothing more than musical chairs. It was always going to go bust.

Private equity is not good for the economy.

Plenty of blame to go around.

There's companies looking for seniors in their field with degrees and 5 to 10 years of experience with listed starting salaries of 67 to 75k, even 80k. That's a freaking joke in today's economy.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22029 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 11:58 pm to
I am 68 in December; my Parents exceeded their Parents and my wife and I exceeded our Parents' wealth. Now I look at my 2 daughters approaching 40 and my grandkids, and I realize they will not exceed our success, breaking the chain. I think this is further proof that the American Dream is becoming just that, 'a dream', one that most young folks will not be able to obtain. Rising interest rates, cost of renting or buying a house, much less just renting an Apartment, is absurd. Trouble for young people, like my Daughters, they will try to match my lifestyle, but they will fail and just fall into debt. What my kids don't see is what I put away and the fact I even have a pension, things that are different or lacking today. Point of all this, I feel sorry for young people, especially the ones approaching their 30's and not taking work serious enough. No one said life would be easy and in this economy, scary times ahead for all...watch your money!
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3595 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 6:16 am to
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governments try to prevent the downs altogether
no it's not governments. you people conflate private banks with government. the federal reserve is a private bank. this private bank nothing more than a puppet bank for European banking giants and the cabal running everything.

you might not be ablev to see the cabal but lack of understanding the federal reserve is ridiculous.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80358 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:00 am to
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$35 Trillion and growing is not sustainable.



Their is no fixing this with the tools we have available.

Not taxes, not spending cuts, not a combination of.

We have no solutions.

We literally need a miracle (and those do happen).
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112892 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:03 am to
Sadly, this is true
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:19 am to
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Biden admin is terrible, and I'm a conservative, but it's just approaching that time in the economic cycle where wages have to catch back up.


Continually putting money in the economy will keep that from happening.

We need austerity.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25973 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:24 am to
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We need austerity.


What does this look like in the federal budget?



3 biggest chunks of the pie, no one will touch. No voters will support changing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135807 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:35 am to
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Their is no fixing this with the tools we have available
Of course there is a solution. Eliminate "use it or lose it spending." Eliminate budgetary COLAs. Execute a real, top-level freeze in government outlays. Private economic sector growth would slowly increase tax based revenue. Revenue would eventually surpass spending.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9067 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:42 am to
BS.....

Means you have no clue.

The problem is a Federal Government that spends like they run a printing press.

Stop spending bills that go to the favors for the Communists. Money for favors to the Union Bosses and not to the workers ...

Gut the Federal Government. Thousands of non producing GOVERMENT jobs is not productive employment. Most of the damned staff sits at home faking work anyway.

Trump showed the government what works.

Government ....get out of the lives of the public ....You have no business telling us what to drive, what to eat, and what utensils to use.

You communists have a problem with that? We'll go and defeat the Venezuelan military , take over and you can live frikking each other and your children. ...We'll make the il yours
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19508 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:47 am to
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Amen, younger people live on their credit cards. This will cause mass bank rurptzies
well, when corrupt politicians convince them everything is a "right"...

- housing
- sex changes
- tattoos
- college
- 2 modes of transportation
- hair dye
- 31 streaming services
- lawyers to sue anyone who offends them

... they stop worrying about how to obtain it, only that they obtain it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10802 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 7:58 am to
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bullshite.
A kid just starting out gets hit for 1000+ per month in rent for a shite hole apartment
A kid just out of school needs a vehicle to get to that shite job that pays next to nothing. Even if said kid has a freebie beater car, they're still on the hook for outrageous monthly insurance.
That kid still needs to eat. Prices in the grocery store has tripled.


Yes, I agree theres ways to tighten the belt on monthly spending, but it disingenuous to call bullshite on kids today being behind the 8 ball trying to get the ball rolling on their adult life.


Nah.

There are exceptions to everything, but I've been through this argument with people like you on here many times and the fact is that there are plenty of affordable places to live in the US. It may mean you have to take that first job in Kansas or Indiana instead of California or Denver.

It may mean you need to consider your training/degree carefully and think about future job prospects instead of just what you personally feel like you would enjoy doing.

It may mean you need to live in a duplex or even a trailer starting out, and/or you need to get a roommate (but that's what we're talking about, right? Just starting out?).

It may mean that your college strategy should involve two years at a junior college before transferring to the more expensive university to keep loan debt down.

It may mean living at home during as much of college as possible for the same reason.

It may mean eating a lot of beans and rice and spaghetti (cooked at home).

It may mean these and other things, but it's just not true that young people just starting out cannot afford to live.

That's self-evidently not true, or they would all be homeless within a year or two of graduating, and that's not happening.

I've posted a list of US cities on here before that have between 150,000 and 1.2 million residents (which means that they are big enough to offer opportunity for all kinds of different jobs) where housing prices and general cost of living are far below the national average, and that list was between 12-15 cities (and I'm sure there are more...that was the result of about an 8 minute search).

I'm sure it's true that kids can't go to any university they want for four years living in expensive-arse dorms/apartments, paying out of state tuition and running up massive school debt, major in early childhood education or history or kinesiology, take a job in downtown Denver (because it's rad) or Austin or near either coast, live by themselves in a nice apartment, eat out/order delivery like they got used to doing in college, and live within their budget.

I'm sure that's true.

But they aren't entitled to do that. Even if most people in previous generations could.

The thing about young people bitching about Boomers is that not long before the Boomers came of age life was a lot harder and there was a lot less opportunity and comfort for everyone, and the farther back you go from that point, the truer that becomes.

So it's not like life was free and easy for everybody until the Boomers came along and wrecked it. It's more like life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, life was hard, O.k., now life is a little less hard, life is a little less hard, life is a lot easier now, life is a lot easier now, wait...now life is a little less easy than it was a minute ago.

It's just a blip in time.

And even in that context, young people today still have access to far more luxuries and toys and creature comforts and time saving mechanisms than previous generations.



Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80358 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:52 am to

The electorate will never vote in people who will do those things.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
32630 posts
Posted on 8/6/24 at 9:56 am to
Never put on a credit card what you can't pay back at the end of the month. It's not difficult actually.
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