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re: Rand Paul Says Jesus Wouldn’t Like the GOP’s Taste for War
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:21 pm to L.A.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:21 pm to L.A.
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Republicans aren't alone in their taste for war.
That's an excellent point. You and the rest of the folks on this board will appreciate MSNBC's Steve Kornacki's evisceration of the Clintons on their war hypocrisy yesterday. FOX News couldn't have done it better. Here's the link:
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:21 pm to HempHead
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A non-Christian Republican (maybe a Jew) would never be elected to office.
Wait, didn't we just do that twice?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:24 pm to Zach
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Good point. But he's not saying he read the Bible. He just supposes what Jesus would say. Therefore, he assumes Jesus was the Son of God. That means he believes in the historical Bible. I find that interesting. I always thought Rand was Agnostic.
You don't have to be a Christian to believe that Jesus was a real-life historical figure who was a voice of compassion and kindness. Even Muslim's admire Jesus as a great prophet.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:25 pm to trackfan
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Even Muslim's admire Jesus as a great prophet
That doesn't exactly inspire me to believe anything about Jesus.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:27 pm to TrueTiger
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Wait, didn't we just do that twice?
Which Republican are you talking about? I know for a fact that there have never been any Jews or avowed atheists elected to the White House.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:29 pm to C
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plays to ignorance
A lot of elections have been won in exactly this fashion.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:34 pm to trackfan
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You don't have to be a Christian to believe that Jesus was a real-life historical figure who was a voice of compassion and kindness. Even Muslim's admire Jesus as a great prophet.
You are missing my point about the Bible. If non Christians believe that Jesus existed yet they go on to say that x,y and z are his opinions on political issues, then those non Christians must believe the the Bible is true. Because the beliefs of Jesus's opinions on politics comes from the Bible.
Did Jesus just tell them shite in their dreams?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:36 pm to trackfan
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Which Republican are you talking about?
Not literally, I was just making a little reference to Obama being called a muslim and really in line with Wall St., and implementing a Republican plan (Romneycare).
Nevermind. My bad, no one is going to make the connection so it won't be funny.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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How does this apply to the Iraq War?
Both are applicable, but where in to OP or the post I referenced is there any mention of the Iraq War?
Posted on 6/28/14 at 5:57 pm to deltaland
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I love his consistency in calling out hypocrisy on both sides.
It's not hypocrisy. Jesus said to turn and offer the other cheek to your enemy. Is that what we should follow, Christian or not? Jesus was not sent to save a nation but, rather, individuals.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:16 pm to trackfan
quote:Clinton, Reagan, LBJ, JFK, Nixon, Dubya, Obama...when it comes to war is there a bit of difference between any of them? There's not as far as I can see.
You and the rest of the folks on this board will appreciate MSNBC's Steve Kornacki's evisceration of the Clintons on their war hypocrisy yesterday. FOX News couldn't have done it better. Here's the link:
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:17 pm to trackfan
Message to Rand: Hey Rand...Jesus also said that "my kingdom is not of this world". I suspect that he meant that it's a kingdom of Spirit. You taking up the mantle of Parson?
If you want to be our preacher...that's a good sermon. If you want to be our President...then you are not hired to defend and promote the next world...but THIS NATION. Here and now. If you can't do that job without sullying your Faith...then don't run for the job.
So rape, murder and pillaging is fine with you? The very censorship and destruction of the WHOLE AND TRUE Gospel of Jesus by Mohammad's Ideological Caliphate? Turn our cheek and take martyrdom, would be your Presidential example? I'm sure all the young girls over there waiting for genital surgery, will rejoice in your victory.
We are all sick of war; it consumes the souls and energy of our BEST...while the slackers and heathen do their thing and could care less. But did not Jesus say that "he would not return in peace...but with a sword". There are things worse than war.
Stick to defending and promoting the Constitution, what's left of it. You're getting drunk. On power.
If you want to be our preacher...that's a good sermon. If you want to be our President...then you are not hired to defend and promote the next world...but THIS NATION. Here and now. If you can't do that job without sullying your Faith...then don't run for the job.
So rape, murder and pillaging is fine with you? The very censorship and destruction of the WHOLE AND TRUE Gospel of Jesus by Mohammad's Ideological Caliphate? Turn our cheek and take martyrdom, would be your Presidential example? I'm sure all the young girls over there waiting for genital surgery, will rejoice in your victory.
We are all sick of war; it consumes the souls and energy of our BEST...while the slackers and heathen do their thing and could care less. But did not Jesus say that "he would not return in peace...but with a sword". There are things worse than war.
Stick to defending and promoting the Constitution, what's left of it. You're getting drunk. On power.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:22 pm to C
Had a lot of hope for him. But it seems he is on a self destruction path.
He is about to lose my vote.
He is about to lose my vote.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:23 pm to trackfan
yeah no shite.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:28 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Jesus, assuming he'd be relevant to any political discussion, wouldn't like Rand Paul shamelessly sucking up to the establishment like a whore to position himself to run for president.
Of course, Jesus did have a soft spot for working ladies so maybe he'd like rhetorical whores as well.
Of course, Jesus did have a soft spot for working ladies so maybe he'd like rhetorical whores as well.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:31 pm to trackfan
"I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" - Jesus.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:36 pm to Revelator
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Posted by Message Revelator Rand Paul Says Jesus Wouldn’t Like the GOP’s Taste for War The Jews of his day were definately looking for a warrior king to come back in the mold of King David. It's one of the reasons they didn't accept him as messiah.
Interesting, could you give more details please. Not doubting you just a different take.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:36 pm to Rex
Jesus sure did not peacefully remove the moneychangers from the Temple.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:43 pm to Rex
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Rex
Please, don't. I would appreciate that you respect this request.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:45 pm to Zach
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You are missing my point about the Bible. If non Christians believe that Jesus existed yet they go on to say that x,y and z are his opinions on political issues, then those non Christians must believe the the Bible is true. Because the beliefs of Jesus's opinions on politics comes from the Bible.
There is this thing called "accepting the premise" where a person can expound about a set of conditions without actually believing in their premise.
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