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re: Rand Paul never recovered

Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:59 am to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:59 am to
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SDVTiger




talk about loser



but what you are saying...is if you are truely conservative and really want to cut spending like we always talk about....then you are a loser. how dare you say we need to cut spending and actually stick to your guns and not just approve everything because trump is in the white house....how dare you have principles

. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:59 am to
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Rand is standing on the deck of the titanic bitching to the other musicians about what song to play. Reality is it doesn't fricking matter because there are more important things to deal with. Too bad he doesn't care this much about congress vacating its responsibility to declare wars and spend money.


what? he is always bitching about those things and voting against and then yall get mad about that

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:01 am to
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Yeah but he voted for trump 17 times bro


i have voted for him everytime...that doesnt mean i agree with everything he does

i voted for GWB twice too....doesnt mean i supported the god damn patriot act. I served in the army and guess what...didnt agree with half the shite they did either.

This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:01 am to
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talk about loser


Yes we are talking about Cuck Paul

Stop defending these idiots who claim to be the MOST conservative

Like that means anything. Wheres he at on Anthony?

Doing nothing but bark and team up with Dems. What a conservative
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:03 am to
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but what you are saying...is if you are truely conservative and really want to cut spending like we always talk about....then you are a loser. how dare you say we need to cut spending and actually stick to your guns and not just approve everything because trump is in the white house....how dare you have principles
Trump > principles. But it's definately not a cult.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:09 am to
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huh? Rand has always stated the primary function of the federal gov according to the constitution is national defense and has stated many times that the open border policy is the number 1 threat to that.


He doesnt' support a border wall or increased border security.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63233 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:10 am to
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Do you think Taylor Swift is awesome too?
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Nope
That's odd. There are millions of swifties. She sells lost of tickets. Very popular.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:11 am to
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doesnt' support a border wall or increased border security.


What a total loser
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:16 am to
That’s a great point. If he is such an opponent of tariffs why not seek fair trade through the use of them? We carry a mighty weapon in our US buying power. Use it to level the playing field.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:17 am to
Rand must know no other President could have made DOGE and MAHA happen. No one would have made it past the FBI raid stage, much less endless lawfare-and assassination attempts but Trump.

If 2 people aimed a gun at Rand that were suspicious with dem/CIA ties he would cut bait. That's fine.... but STFU when perfection will never be accomplished especially with do nothing congress critters.

Trump has his warts but the R congress critters and Rand, Massie, and so on... are all talk no action. They write strongly worded letters.

At minimum Rand has the intellect to realize: That there was no other recourse to trade in which the USA was bent over with no lube.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:19 am to
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Rand has underran
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:20 am to
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If Rand is really against tariffs, why not be willing to fight to get other countries to remove them?

If Rand cares about americans, why is he OK with open borders and letting criminals in that kill americans?

Rand only stands for being different. He doesn't stand for anything that is actually helpful.

Perfect eval of Rand. Spot on.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97655 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:24 am to
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If Rand is really against tariffs, why not be willing to fight to get other countries to remove them?

If Rand cares about americans, why is he OK with open borders and letting criminals in that kill americans?

Rand only stands for being different. He doesn't stand for anything that is actually helpful.


Well hes the MOST Conservative so hes excused for all this
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37879 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:27 am to
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e doesnt' support a border wall or increased border security.


that is not what he said

he said...he doesnt know if that is the solution to have a wall everywhere but the main thing he said was

its a terrible idea to start the presidents new term spending 100 billion on the wall and another 200 billion on the military with no spending cuts to offset.

he said "I think that is a terrible way to start" and he isnt wrong, you cant take biden spending levels and add 300 billion and say...oh we are conservative

he also said

"If they send the Army into New York and you have 10,000 troops marching, carrying semi-automatic weapons, I think it's a terrible image and I will oppose that" and said its unconstitutional and he is right.

now as far as militarizing the border....that is fully within the scope of the constitution imo. not sure what his views on that are


but stop saying he doesnt support immigration reform and border security because he asked for spending cuts to off set.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:31 am to
the border wall costs are nowhere near those numbers.
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10666 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:45 am to
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cajuntiger1010


Psst, libertarians hate tariffs. Always have and always will.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11297 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:55 am to
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Imagine... celebrating the destruction of conservatives. Why not just vote democrat?


Rand Paul is giving press conferences with democrats and rallying democrats to support his anti-tariff bill because there aren't enough Republicans that do.

Talk about being oblivious.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37879 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:56 am to
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the border wall costs are nowhere near those numbers.


thats what trump was originally asking when Paul commented though and the comments everyone took to mean he doesnt support the wall
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11297 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:00 pm to
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especially when in theory they are correct.


I like people who are correct in practice moreso than theory, but I prefer results over rhetoric and grandstanding.

The fact that you think Trump is right in his application of tariffs suggest you do too but just haven't realized it. Clinging to "principles" makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside while recognizing practical reality is more sobering.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37879 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:05 pm to
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I like people who are correct in practice moreso than theory, but I prefer results over rhetoric and grandstanding.

The fact that you think Trump is right in his application of tariffs suggest you do too but just haven't realized it. Clinging to "principles" makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside while recognizing practical reality is more sobering.


no i specifically said that earlier. I also can appreciate pauls stance that a tariff is a tax and should be voted on by congress who is constitutionally mandated to handle those things

but of course congress is also mandated to pass an actual budget and hasnt done that in a 4 years and hasnt passed one on time since 96.


here is the thing, in the end i can appreciate someone who doesnt flip flop and holds true to what he believes, mainly that congress should control spending and we spend too god damn much and that we tax too much.
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