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Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:27 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:27 am
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In the initiative’s introductory passage, Draper argues that “vast parts of California are poorly served by a representative government dominated by a large number of elected representatives from a small part of our state, both geographically and economically.”
The proposal aims to invoke Article IV, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, the provision guiding how an existing state can be divided into new states. Draper’s plan calls for three new entities — Northern California, California and Southern California — which would roughly divide the population of the existing state into thirds.
Northern California would consist of 40 counties stretching from Oregon south to Santa Cruz County, then east to Merced and Mariposa counties. Southern California would begin with Madera County in the Central Valley and then wind its way along the existing state’s eastern and southern spine, comprising 12 counties and ultimately curving up the Pacific coast to grab San Diego and Orange counties.
LA Times
Veiled attempt to get more senators?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:29 am to FrenchToast
Again? Did this happen in germany?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:38 am to russellvillehog
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Again? Did this happen in germany?
Well why don't you ask the LA Times about Germany since the linked article is dated June 12th?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 5:50 am to FrenchToast
Trump has literally broken California
Posted on 6/13/18 at 6:08 am to FrenchToast
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This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 6:10 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:03 am to FrenchToast
I have a metric three tons of family in what would become "Southern California", and they support this bigly.
If I'd been drawing the lines, I'd have just moved the "California" border farther north to include the Bay area and give them a few more electoral votes for that area.
If I'd been drawing the lines, I'd have just moved the "California" border farther north to include the Bay area and give them a few more electoral votes for that area.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:04 am to FrenchToast
Congress would have to approve it. Highly unlikely; but who knows.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:06 am to gthog61
quote:Third thread this morning. Title even identical.
Well why don't you ask the LA Times about Germany since the linked article is dated June 12th?
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 8:10 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:07 am to TigerAxeOK
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I'd have just moved the "California" border farther north to include the Bay area and give them a few more electoral votes for that area.
Me too. It would probably more accurately represent the state.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:09 am to FrenchToast
The rest of the United States is never going to give those idiots more seats in the senate.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:28 am to FrenchToast
No voter ID law in Cali right?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:34 am to FrenchToast
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:36 am to FrenchToast
Can you imagine the amount of fricked up gerrymandering that will take place if approved
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:42 am to FrenchToast
Split it up,
Northern third along with Oregon and Washington go to Canada.
West Coast and Hawaii go to the Japanese.
Southern Cali of course goes to Mexico.
The US can keep South Lake Tahoe and give it to Nevada. We also can keep Catalina Island as testament to the Beach Boys. The Dodgers ho back to Brooklyn and the Giants supplant the Mets in Queens. That would be appropriate. The Mets move to Vegas.
Northern third along with Oregon and Washington go to Canada.
West Coast and Hawaii go to the Japanese.
Southern Cali of course goes to Mexico.
The US can keep South Lake Tahoe and give it to Nevada. We also can keep Catalina Island as testament to the Beach Boys. The Dodgers ho back to Brooklyn and the Giants supplant the Mets in Queens. That would be appropriate. The Mets move to Vegas.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:43 am to FrenchToast
Is this a good thing? I only see this as a way for them to get 6 Democrat Senators to Washington instead of the current 2. For Presidential elections, I see each of these three new states going Democrat just like Chicago makes the rest of red Illinois go: Sacramento/San Fran will make NoCa go blue, LA will make Ca go blue, and San Diego will make SoCa go blue.
So they're gaining 4 default Democrat Senators and the 55 electoral votes will still go Democrat, too.
Why do we want this?
So they're gaining 4 default Democrat Senators and the 55 electoral votes will still go Democrat, too.
Why do we want this?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:44 am to doubleb
Would Republicans have any shot at Northern CA in a presidential election? That might be worth ceding more Senators.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:48 am to LSUFootballLover
Cannot wait to escape the grips of NorCal policies
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:49 am to LSUFootballLover
Not in my plan. Canada isn't repped in Congress.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 8:54 am to ibldprplgld
Republicans can win San diego
Should have Monterrey with norcal.
They are not los Angeles folks.
I'm in.
Should have Monterrey with norcal.
They are not los Angeles folks.
I'm in.
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