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re: Questions About Vance’s Backing and Political Path.

Posted on 10/6/25 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Hawgleg
Member since Jan 2022
511 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 10:16 am to
Lets enjoy a couple more years of the winning before we turn our attention to whom the predicessor will be. Witch will be whomever Trump endorses.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23582 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 10:19 am to
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We need the majority of H1Bs sent back.


That’s never going to happen. You can hire 3 Indian software developers for 1 American. My company switched to offshore because Americans started pricing themselves out of the market. Kids out of college were wanting 80-90K per year with no experience. It’s business 101.
Posted by TIGERhype
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2014
1121 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 10:21 am to
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**cough Israel lobby cough**


Exactly! That’s a big part of what I’m wondering. Are they the ones strategically maneuvering behind the scenes, playing 4D chess, pulling the strings when it comes to these candidates?
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50724 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:00 am to
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Nobody that gets to that level of politics gets there organically. Especially not as fast as his rise was. Does that mean it's a bad thing? No.
It was with Obama. Jury is out on Vance’s benefactors. It doesn't happen without some collusion and corruption. The days of national politicians coming from out of the woodwork like Carter in 1976 is over.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22302 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:04 am to
Insert the name Obama and your questions are still valid.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 2:51 pm to
Obama was establishment as establishment comes. Since he was a kid. His "rise" looks different than what it was when you remember that he grew up around the Bush family.
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
1895 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:55 pm to
There's no doubt he was "chosen", if not molded to be a politician capable of being successful. As mentioned, it's known he was/is funded/supported by Theil and we can only hope he is an intelligent guy and slick navigator of the political jungle to achieve the shite that matters. There will never be another Trump (at least not for another 30-40 years when Barron ascends to the throne). But Vance has to take the mantle and correct the insanity the lunatics have managed to create. It's gonna take a while, but it obviously starts with winning the next 2 presidential elections. It's a tough task, a hard job, especially with finishing everything Trump started to fix and bring back to good ole common sense, but just doesn't have enough time to do it all. Hence, those next 8 years are that more important.Vance is obviously the chosen one. The as yet to be officially knighted successor. We have to stand behind him, pray that the Republicans in the Congress and the Senate grow a pair ( they probably won't. They're getting paid too much to actually give a frick) And at least maintain the majority in both houses.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
873 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:10 pm to
They want $80-90k because companies will lay them off after setting record profits. There's no loyalty anymore, so they need to be compensated fairly.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2221 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:19 pm to
Conspiracy thinking always seems linear when you see it in print.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15810 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:24 pm to
We need the majority of H1Bs sent back.

We need every single fricking Indian and every single fricking Muslim deported from this country. I’m so sick of having this debate, I will never understand how anyone can not put Americans first.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11919 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:55 pm to
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single most important policy goal is to stop the invasion of foreigners.


HB1 is an important issue. However, I'm not sure it can be lumped in with illegal immigration from the South, nor is it more important than sound fiscal policy, keeping Pedos out of our classrooms, funding the social decline of major cities, etc..
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
948 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
948 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:09 pm to
Vance is the betting favorite, brilliant political mind. He's already on interview circuit while the Democrats have no idea whose running in 2028. i can see Vance win more of the Black / Hispanic vote than Trump, because those voters left the Democrat party because of their far left stance on immigration, LGBT and Crime and Trump was the sane one.


but he has a ton of baggage with Thiel. Its swamp shite. it will be difficult to run as a populist or outsider like Trump did. And he doesn't have the cult of personality to survive scrutiny like Trump. Fuentes explains it here, and hes is a very influential anti Vance guy
LINK
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22111 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:29 pm to
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i can see Vance win more of the Black / Hispanic vote than Trump, because those voters left the Democrat party because of their far left stance on immigration, LGBT and Crime and Trump was the sane one.


I respectfully dont see what you see because you are only looking at the idealogic side of voter motivation. I work with a ton of young blacks and I hired many of them. Trump just connected with them with his bravado and his clashes with the institutional govt. Trump getting mugshotted and going to court day after day was over the top with this demographic. Vance to them is just another stale white cracker.

It is possible that the Dems just keep imploding but many of the unconventional Trump voters will not support Vance. Maybe he can recover some of the white women demographic which has gone off the rails as a group in the last 8 yrs.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51772 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Nobody that gets to that level of politics gets there organically. Especially not as fast as his rise was.

I think that Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan did. Reagan took a very long time, but Clinton rose quickly and audaciously.

I've read that Charlie Kirk had a lot to do with Vance's rise, but the giant step Vance took was powered by his pen when he wrote Hillbilly Elegy. It was a tour de force. It was a best seller, and you cannot read it without realizing he is a super star.
Posted by dolamite
st. mary parish
Member since Sep 2009
1084 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:08 pm to
Not saying better, but Rubio has name recognition and would also be a good choice
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