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Question on the supposed covid "Boosters"

Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:09 am
So I know quite a few people who were more than ready and did get the "vaccine" as soon as it became available. These same people are now hesitant to take the "booster" and are questioning why they need it. Shouldn't they have been a little more questioning at the outset?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57243 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:11 am to
hopefully they wake up and become anti-boosters
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18003 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:12 am to
My thoughts:

In the spring when the vaccine became readily available, people took it with the assumption that it would (1) keep them safe from COVID) and (2) get us back to normal.

Now that people who received the vaccine are getting COVID and we are trending back toward total lockdown again, people don't see the use in getting the vaccine. To your point, I know plenty of people who got it who wouldn't get it in hindsight.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53012 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:15 am to
I am basically in that camp. I bowed to the pressure in hopes that all this nonsense would be over by the fall. Now, I'm not getting a booster for every variant out there.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:24 am to
I'm just literally amazed that they were able to convince millions of people to inject an unknown chemical into themselves, which was the first of it's kind in history. All while at the same time not giving you an official list of side effects and giving complete immunity to the drug makers. I'm just in awe....and it happened so fast....
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:34 am to
quote:

These same people are now hesitant to take the "booster" and are questioning why they need it. Shouldn't they have been a little more questioning at the outset?



I spoke with a doctor I trust early on. He's always worked in a university environment (some of the best universities in the world). He doesn't take a lot of patients because he does a lot of research. Most of his patients have a certain disease and he chooses them based on their having this disease. He's generally regarded as the best doctor/researcher in his specialty and people come to him from all over the world.

He "cautioned" me against taking any of these "vaccines" until they've had an adequate time to properly test these drug according to well established protocols. He explained that this disease is unlike any "virus" we've ever seen. He also said the "vaccine" isn't a real vaccine but a gene therapy drug. He told me that this disease is more like the yearly flu rather than a virus. BACK IN MARCH he told me that people don't realize it YET, but they'll be taking these non-"vaccines" pretty much every year as this disease changes forms (varients) year after year. And, we'll never really get rid of it.

I went to my primary doctor not too long after this and he "strongly" encouraged me to get the vaccine. I gave him the main reasons I did not want to get the vaccine and asked him if he could tell me either the short-term or long-term side effects of these drugs. He just looked at me with a blank face.

I then told him what this doctor/researcher had told me. He assured me that the "current research" did not support this position and that it was ridiculous to suggest that these "vaccines" didn't work or that we would ever need to get another vaccine -- much less vaccines on a yearly basis. He assured me that this doctor did not know what he was talking about.

This was all back in March.

Who should I believe now???
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 9:39 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:38 am to
That's one of my main issues. People act like you are crazy for refusing it. Yet these same people can't give you a list of side effects. Also they just non stop hammer into you how safe the vaccine is. Six months ago did they know we were gonna need a booster? So how do they know a year from now what kind of side effects there will be?
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:40 am to
quote:

I'm just literally amazed that they were able to convince millions of people to inject an unknown chemical into themselves, which was the first of it's kind in history. All while at the same time not giving you an official list of side effects and giving complete immunity to the drug makers. I'm just in awe....and it happened so fast....


This is exactly what I've been saying on this board since March. It bewildered my mind how people just trusted Raping Joe and Fauxci after all the lies they had been CAUGHT telling.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:42 am to
I'm sorry, but if your main argument to me on why I should risk my health on something unknown is, "Do your part so we can get back to normal", that's not very convincing.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:45 am to
Yes, and this whole thing is so out of control. People are just chasing their tails, and people have been targeted and shamed for simply wanting to wait and see how things go, or they wait to get more solid info so they can make the best decision for themselves. It’s completely ridiculous
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:50 am to
quote:

He "cautioned" me against taking any of these "vaccines" until they've had an adequate time to properly test these drug according to well established protocols. He explained that this disease is unlike any "virus" we've ever seen. He also said the "vaccine" isn't a real vaccine but a gene therapy drug. He told me that this disease is more like the yearly flu rather than a virus. BACK IN MARCH he told me that people don't realize it YET, but they'll be taking these non-"vaccines" pretty much every year as this disease changes forms (varients) year after year. And, we'll never really get rid of it


Yea, you don’t have to be a doctor to come to this conclusion. It’s pretty palpable. It’s just so dumb how they are trying to shame people when they aren’t transparent and giving everybody all the information
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:50 am to
Have they tested the boosters on thousands of people with a control sample to test it's efficacy?

No, unlike the original shots they have not yet done so. So I am good for now. When they do those studies I will review them and make a decision.

Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 9:59 am to
So what about the next booster, or shot number 4....We all know that's coming. Gonna wait on it too or just get them to load you up once the first booster has been studied?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:01 am to
I won't take the booster right now because I just got vaxxed in May. I want to see the data as to just how long protection lasts before I get a boost.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:06 am to
quote:

I'm just literally amazed that they were able to convince millions of people to inject an unknown chemical into themselves, which was the first of it's kind in history.


Actually these vaccines are just modified slightly for this particular virus. These type of vaccines ave been around for years! That is why they were able to get them out to you in record time.

They were never used prior to covid19 because they never worked. They would work maybe at first but then the animals immune system would overreact at virus exposure and kill the animal.

So now they are being used on people without any improvements or reason to believe the same thing wont happen with these mRNA vaccines.

Some people believe that they want it to work this time. Some people believe they want it to work on you like it always worked in the past.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28242 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:06 am to
quote:

He "cautioned" me against taking any of these "vaccines" until they've had an adequate time to properly test these drug according to well established protocols.


That is a reasonable position

quote:

He told me that this disease is more like the yearly flu rather than a virus. BACK IN MARCH he told me that people don't realize it YET, but they'll be taking these non-"vaccines" pretty much every year as this disease changes forms (varients) year after year. And, we'll never really get rid of it.


Arguably we do that (or used to) with the flu every year. Many take a flu shot with full understanding that it doesn't prevent one from getting the flu, but may lessen the symptoms.

The problem is the ENTIRE episode has been, from day one, wrought with gross hyperbole...from both sides of the debate. So much so, that ALL credibility has been lost.

We started out with "just two weeks to flatten the curve" are are now entering essentially mandatory "vaccines" that look as if they will have to be repeated frequently. Unfortunately, though, the battle lines have been drawn.

Many promoted the vaccine as the ONLY way to "return" to normal. Now, there is the realization that the vaccine isn't the 100% preventative measure some (perhaps erroneously) felt it would be. Nevertheless, they are ALL IN. So the idea of having to get a "booster" seemingly so soon does not raise some degree of concern. Rather, their position is that the booster is ONLY necessary because there has not been mandatory compliance with forcing every American to get the vaccine when the reality is that it would likely be necessary even IF "enough" (a completely arbitrary concept) people had received it to date.

On the flip-side, many "anti-vaxxers" are equally as dug in. Perhaps if the information simply would have been reported without gross hyperbole and bias (in all directions) reasonable people would feel better about what is going on.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:06 am to
So you don't even know how long your "protection" lasts, but you still decided to get the original shots? Explain....
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
2499 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:09 am to
I honestly don't care if anyone gets it or not. I got the Pfizer in March due to being over 60 and would do it again. I honestly have no regrets. People should make up their own minds and not worry what others think.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Have they tested the boosters on thousands of people with a control sample to test it's efficacy?

No, unlike the original shots they have not yet done so. So I am good for now. When they do those studies I will review them and make a decision.


This is what OP is missing. Originals were properly trialed.

Boosters have not been.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:12 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1531 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:13 am to
So please tell me what exactly I'm missing.....can you give me a concise list of side effects for the vaccines? Can you explain to me why exactly the drug manufacturers were given complete immunity?
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