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Question for those of you concerned with mail-in ballots

Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:09 am
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
2575 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:09 am
In no way am I insinuating that the mail-in balloting isn’t an important issue—of course it is, it’s the only shot they have of a win in November.

My question is this: do y’all honestly believe Trump doesn’t have something up his sleeve to combat this? The man is smart and has defeated the democrats at every one of their bullshite ploys over the last 4 years. The man is a fighter and a do-er, and I don’t expect him to just sit around and allow something with as much significance as this to go unchallenged.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50722 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:12 am to
If they cheat I hope he cheats. I just hope he’s smart enough to have zero trails back to him.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:19 am to
quote:

My question is this: do y’all honestly believe Trump doesn’t have something up his sleeve to combat this?


Those who COUNT the votes are what I'm afraid of.

No matter what he has up his sleeve, the Dems have shown they will stop at NOTHING.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68391 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:21 am to
quote:

the Dems have shown they will stop at NOTHING.


The biggest concern. Unsolicited mail-in balloting is dangerous for many reasons.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46845 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:22 am to
I'm sure there is recourse that Trump is pursing to combat this obvious attempt to steal the election.

I think people are up in arms because it's a very serious issue that shows a great deal of hypocrisy by the left who spent the majority of Trump's term as President trying to prove the serious charge of election interference and collusion with Russia.

They were very, very concerned with the security of our elections when it meant obstructing Trump's presidency but yet seem to be turning a blind eye to the likelihood of fraud and election interference that mail-out balloting will allow.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
7678 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:23 am to
When these disputed ballots are being argued over in a courtroom, the Republicans need to make sure the pile has as many Republican votes in it as Democrat ones.

No reason for the pile to be 95-5 Democrat vs Republican.

Would be great for the Democrats to be arguing over bunch of ballots that turn out to be a net gain for Republicans.

It would be the most Democrat thing ever.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35423 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:23 am to
quote:

do y’all honestly believe Trump doesn’t have something up his sleeve to combat this?


Exhibit A: USPS


It speaks for itself. I haven't received mail at my house in about two weeks. Our office hasn't received it this entire week. Why should I trust them with my vote?

My arse is going to the poll w/o a mask.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27766 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:25 am to
The fact that the USPS Union endorsed Biden and would be responsible for the mail in ballots should give EVERYONE grave concerns.

This would be similar to Republicans wanting the NRA to secure polling locations of its choosing.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:25 am to
There is literally nothing he can do to combat it but have lawyers present at every swing city, district, county, state where Dems could try something nefarious.

Ultimately the Dem Governors in swing states filling bull shite motions to count mail ballots without stamps and proper verification is ridiculous and rife with fraud.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26439 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:27 am to
quote:

There is literally nothing he can do to combat it


You keep saying this.

Trump is the head of the Executive Branch of government. SCOTUS just declared that EO's are good as gold. Watch what he can do.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157735 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:30 am to
quote:

The fact that the USPS Union endorsed Biden and would be responsible for the mail in ballots should give EVERYONE grave concerns. This would be similar to Republicans wanting the NRA to secure polling locations of its choosing.


There are data sources out there that identify voter reg by address. My street is almost all R. If my post guy is a D does he throw our votes in the trash since his Union hates us?

No way in hell that guy is touching my ballot.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9537 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:38 am to
When each state that attempted unsolicited returns experienced thousands of ballots being sent to wrong addresses and to people that have long since died ...It's obvious that the state is at fault. The states do not purge their registrations. That means registered voters who have moved to another location in the voting precinct or a neighboring precinct and have not provided a forwarding address, have no chance of voting. They could travel a couple of miles and vote in their original precinct. And what prohibits the same voter from filling out a unsolicited mail in ballot then going to their precinct and voting in person?

Remember ...they are still counting hanging chads in Broward County Florida and Gore has still not won.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
4243 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:50 am to
absolutely he does....and if its me....and they drag shite out saying they have more ballots to count....guess what....we found some more ballots too!

AND i would be filling out ballots improperly on purpose with Bidens name written in and then have these ballots discovered as being fraud.....frick them, we can play dirty to IDGAF. If Biden is elected we are all fricked
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59221 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:50 am to
quote:

My question is this: do y’all honestly believe Trump doesn’t have something up his sleeve to combat this?


IDGAF. Opening up the voting system to so much potential fraud has absolutely no benefit. Anyone so fricking lazy or simple-minded that they can't figure out for themselves how to request an Absentee ballot or show the frick up and vote in person doesn't deserve to be voting in the first place. Voting is a right, but it's also a responsibility. Making ballots as easily available as junk mail does nothing but lessen the importance of being able to vote.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27766 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 10:29 am to
quote:

There are data sources out there that identify voter reg by address. My street is almost all R. If my post guy is a D does he throw our votes in the trash since his Union hates us?

No way in hell that guy is touching my ballot.


Exactly. The idea is to reduce the possibility of bad actors affecting the outcome, not increase it.

I'm not sure some kind of electronic voting system with a secure, robust multi-factor authentication process is a bad idea however, but if Dems fight voter IDs, no way they bite on that.

Their goal isn't to increase the number of people who vote in a secure way, their interests only lie in modifying the system in a way that allows them to dig it easier.
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