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re: Question for the Joggers of Political Talk
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:47 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:47 am to crazy4lsu
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here was only one reported burglary in the area, at the McMichael's house.
English is now saying $2500 worth of property were stolen in January (or February), although he did not report it at the time. Take it FWIW.
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I'm very skeptical that Arbery would have continually stolen things on a route he regularly jogged.
I'm skeptical about all of it in a case like this. How well did these folks know each other? Any old beefs?
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Why weren't there more police reports made, why won't the neighbor share the footage with police, why haven't any of the stolen goods been found, why did police lie to the mother of Arbery about his cause of death when they had the video from the day of the incident, and why did the second DA write the internal memo the way he did?
So, the corollary to my Rule #1 - "...and those wrong initial reports are always woefully incomplete."
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:48 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:49 am to the808bass
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So they found stolen property on him
Dunno, and not relevant to my comment.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 7:51 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:50 am to Manzielathon
If the jogger was white, or if the other two were black, this would never have made national news. PERIOD.
So when are you white people going to learn? You need to avoid black people at all cost. This is a simplification, but you are only allowed to confront black people if they are in your house.
So when are you white people going to learn? You need to avoid black people at all cost. This is a simplification, but you are only allowed to confront black people if they are in your house.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:50 am to cwill
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They owned the road?
Did this guy steal their shite or not.
I’m just catching up.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:50 am to Ace Midnight
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I'm skeptical about all of it in a case like this.
Frankly, the thing that piqued my interest in the case was the fact that the police had the video from the time of the incident, but lied to the mother about how the victim died, and made no attempt to correct it until after a news report came about about it in April.
That, along with the internal memo written by the DA, are extremely peculiar. Here's the memo. LINK
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:52 am to crazy4lsu
Wait, the story here is they called 911 before they went and murdered someone?
That’s gonna be a no from me dog.
That’s gonna be a no from me dog.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:53 am to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Thanks for posting, now I know what the correct side of the story to be on is.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:56 am to Manzielathon
quote:Are we just gonna ignore the fact that he got turned around twice before the video started? He tried to keep running. That’s a fact. Eventually, the person chooses to fight instead of flight. When you make a person feel like that’s their only option, it’s the option they’re going to choose.
How is attacking two guys who have guns with your bare hands increasing your chances of not getting shot, compared to continuing to run?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:57 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Yeah. They said there’s a black man running down our road. Come get him. That was literally their reasoning. Pretty good, huh?
Wait, the story here is they called 911 before they went and murdered someone?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:57 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Not.
Did this guy steal their shite or not.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:59 am to crazy4lsu
There’s no date on that memo. Weird.
I take it back. It’s written April 2nd. There’s no date. But it’s April 2nd.
I take it back. It’s written April 2nd. There’s no date. But it’s April 2nd.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:01 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:00 am to roadGator
Fight or flight my friend...look them up
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:01 am to crazy4lsu
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Third Itappears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael, and Bryan William were following, in pursuit burglary suspec,t with solid first hand probable cause, in their neighborhood, and asking/ tellinghim to stop. Itappearstheir intentwasto stop andhold thiscriminalsuspectuntil law enforcement arrived. UnderGeorgia Law this is perfectly legal, OCGA17-4-60 Aprivatepersonmayarrestanoffenderiftheoffense iscommittedinhispresenceorwithinhis immediate knowledge . If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion .” Fourth It clearly appears Travis McMichael and Greg McMichaelhad firearmsbeing carried in an open fashion . The investigation shows neither of them to be convicted felons or under felony supervision , they were in a motor vehicle owned by Travis McMichael. UnderGeorgia Law this is legalopen carry . OCGA 16- 11- 126 ) Anypersonwhoisnotprohibitedbylaw from possessingahandgunorlonggunmayhaveorcarryonhisorher personaweaponorlonggunon hisorherpropertyorinsidehisorherhome,motorvehicle, orplaceofbusiness withouta valid weaponscarry license. (b) Anypersonwhoisnotprohibitedbylaw from possessingahandgunorlonggunmayhaveorcarryonhisorher person a long gun withouta valid weapons carry license, provided thatif the long gun is loaded, it shall only be carried in an open and fully exposedmanner.”
Yeah. This is going to be a big waste of time.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:02 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:01 am to Manzielathon
You are literally a worthless piece of shite.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:03 am to Turbeauxdog
Except for all kinds of half-truths in that report.
They didn’t have first hand knowledge of a crime.
Georgia’s citizen arrest law doesn’t provide for violence in detaining someone.
Also, if Arbery had a gun, using the DA’s argument, he could have shot McMichaels.
They didn’t have first hand knowledge of a crime.
Georgia’s citizen arrest law doesn’t provide for violence in detaining someone.
Also, if Arbery had a gun, using the DA’s argument, he could have shot McMichaels.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:04 am to the808bass
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They didn’t have first hand knowledge of a crime.
We’ll see. My guess is we’ll find out more.
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Georgia’s citizen arrest law doesn’t provide for violence in detaining someone.
The DA explains that in the memo.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:04 am to the808bass
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I take it back. It’s written April 2nd. There’s no date. But it’s April 2nd.
We know that because he luckily dated the autopsy report, but not the memo itself, which is weird. I don't know what the standard these things are, but the memo seemed pretty sloppy. The description of the video and then ascribing some weird stuff to Arbery at the end struck me as extremely strange.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:06 am to the808bass
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Also, if Arbery had a gun, using the DA’s argument, he could have shot McMichaels.
Probably would have. What’s your point?
Posted on 5/8/20 at 8:07 am to Turbeauxdog
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The DA explains that in the memo
The McMichael's hadn't seen him commit a crime though. At most, he was trespassing, but in order to do a citizen's arrest in GA, you need to be witness to a felony, I believe. No where in the official documents does it mention finding anything Arbery supposedly stole.
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