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re: Question for other Catholics about the Pope
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:23 pm to nealnan8
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:23 pm to nealnan8
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There can't be a new Pope, unless the current Pope dies.
Incorrect. The Pope can step down for health issues or any other reason if he so desires. Just typically does not happen.
IMHO, I think Francis has pooped in his sandbox and the COC will not pick another one like him next time.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:36 pm to burger bearcat
From what I read a year or two ago, the more current Pope has been very busy appointing Cardinals (the ones young (aha) enough to vote for his successor and almost to a man, those new ones are in lock step (a word with intentional meaning) with the beliefs of the more current Pope. Having conservative views is far, far from their view of the world.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:02 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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There can't be a new Pope, unless the current Pope dies.
Not true. Pope Benedict resigned and is still alive.
Well, you answered your own statement.
Francis is a fraud and is illegitimate, Benedict closed the papal bank when his papacy began. It eliminated centuries of money laundering operations for the Italian mafia and Western European countries, like France and Spain.
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The Godfather saga resurrects two stories the Vatican would like to forget: its involvement in the scandalous collapse of Banco Ambrosiano and a controversial 1984 claim that a newly elected Pope John Paul I was murdered after he began to clean up the Vatican Bank. The Godfather Part III is about the struggle between forgiveness and revenge, love and fear, redemption and corruption. It is a story of corruption in all sectors of society, including the Catholic Church, and the Godfather's realization that "the higher I go, the crookeder it becomes."
I’m Catholic and I’ll never know the intricate details, but the answer lies somewhere in the middle of that morass.
Someone mentioned that it would be a true revelation of the faith, if a new pope was elected from the African congregation. I wholeheartedly agree, a pope of Asian or African decree would do wonders for the faithful, not so much for the PTB. The Catholic Church has been growing at an exponential rate in both Africa and Asia over the past 30 years, while withering on the vine in Europe and the U.S.
*Benedict will out live Francis*
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 3:38 pm to FooManChoo
Your denomination has existed for 400 years and has less than 10,000 members here in the USA.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:06 pm to Champagne
quote:You got me curious.
Your denomination has existed for 400 years and has less than 10,000 members here in the USA.
quote:Wow. Not a group with a lot of respect for the Establishment Clause.
Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America
After the ratification of the United States Constitution in 1788, the denomination held that the Constitution (and therefore all governments under it) was immoral, and that participation in such a government to be likewise immoral, because the Constitution contained no recognition of Christ as the King of Nations.
Therefore, the RPCNA eschewed various civic rights, and church courts disciplined members who exercised voting rights and who served on juries.
As few Americans held such principles, and as obedience sometimes caused difficulty (for example, oaths of allegiance were prohibited, preventing foreign-born Reformed Presbyterians from becoming citizens
This post was edited on 12/28/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 12/28/22 at 4:29 pm to Champagne
quote:I find it funny how in a thread in the last week, I was accused of derailing the topic by discussing the moral ramifications of the topic at hand at a deeper level, yet in a thread that is specific to Catholicism, you have chosen to derail it by talking about my personal beliefs when my contribution to this thread was entirely about the OP and wasn't even critical of the beliefs of Catholicism.
Your denomination has existed for 400 years and has less than 10,000 members here in the USA.
With that said, you haven't addressed anything of substance. It seems that you are simply trying to pull the "we're bigger and have been around longer" card to make it seem like what I believe is false. That's not a good way to argue truth claims.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:12 pm to David_DJS
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But I cannot support in any way the Church as presently led. It's not that I think Francis is a bad pope, it's that I think he's evil
In the struggle to reconcile your heart and mind consider the sins of St. Peter. He, who knew Jesus, knew the Lord's plan for him (Petros), witnessed miracles, and fought with a sword to defend Jesus would deny three times out of convenience and cowardice.
I think of Peter often when considering Pope Francis and my questioning of his lose wording or political ramblings. We are charged to pray for the Pope, and we must remember that the office is not made by man or free from instances of sin (obviously excluding ex cathedra statements).
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:17 pm to burger bearcat
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Is there any chance to get a more traditiona/orthodox conservative Catholic?
No.
Posted on 12/28/22 at 6:29 pm to Champagne
Catholics: God loves you!
Calvinists: I don’t know, does He?
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