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re: Question for other Catholics about the Pope
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:15 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:15 am to burger bearcat
In the US, attendance and revenue is dropping. IMO this is how Catholics affect change. Not a lot different from what we need to do with our federal government. The problem is w/ regard to the Church, you've got to sin to do it.
I grew up Catholic. Went to 12 years of Catholic school. I didn't miss my first mass until my mid-30's, but at 62 now, I haven't been to church since I had to attend to "qualify" my youngest for Catholic high school.
I would like to still be a practicing Catholic. I hope to be able to do that again in good conscience before I die. But I cannot support in any way the Church as presently led. It's not that I think Francis is a bad pope, it's that I think he's evil.
I grew up Catholic. Went to 12 years of Catholic school. I didn't miss my first mass until my mid-30's, but at 62 now, I haven't been to church since I had to attend to "qualify" my youngest for Catholic high school.
I would like to still be a practicing Catholic. I hope to be able to do that again in good conscience before I die. But I cannot support in any way the Church as presently led. It's not that I think Francis is a bad pope, it's that I think he's evil.
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Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:25 am to nealnan8
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There can't be a new Pope, unless the current Pope dies.
We have to go all the way back in history to the previous Pope Benedict to find out that isn’t true.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:27 am to jimmy the leg
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True, but it also doesn’t mean supporting the goose-stepping communazis at pretty much every opportunity.
Like I said I believe in the power of prayer. If we're troubled by the actions of others then we should pray for them. If the Holy Spirit leads you to confront them, do it with love. Always with love.
As it applies to any concerns about the actions of this Pope I should comfort myself with Our Lord's own words.....
"And I tell thee this in my turn, that thou art Peter, and it is upon this rock that I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". - Matthew 16:18.
Ultimately it comes down to faith. Do I trust that Jesus will lead His Church through this crisis? He said He would. Shouldn't that be enough for us?
Jesus, I trust in you.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:27 am to jimmy the leg
quote:
True, but it also doesn’t mean supporting the goose-stepping communazis at pretty much every opportunity.
Like I said I believe in the power of prayer. If we're troubled by the actions of others then we should pray for them. If the Holy Spirit leads you to confront them, do it with love. Always with love.
As it applies to any concerns about the actions of this Pope I should comfort myself with Our Lord's own words.....
"And I tell thee this in my turn, that thou art Peter, and it is upon this rock that I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". - Matthew 16:18.
Ultimately it comes down to faith. Do I trust that Jesus will lead His Church through this crisis? He said He would. Shouldn't that be enough for us?
Jesus, I trust in you.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:27 am to jimmy the leg
quote:
True, but it also doesn’t mean supporting the goose-stepping communazis at pretty much every opportunity.
Like I said I believe in the power of prayer. If we're troubled by the actions of others then we should pray for them. If the Holy Spirit leads you to confront them, do it with love. Always with love.
As it applies to any concerns about the actions of this Pope I should comfort myself with Our Lord's own words.....
"And I tell thee this in my turn, that thou art Peter, and it is upon this rock that I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". - Matthew 16:18.
Ultimately it comes down to faith. Do I trust that Jesus will lead His Church through this crisis? He said He would. Shouldn't that be enough for us?
Jesus, I trust in you.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:27 am to Zarkinletch416
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While I'm uneasy with this Pope's approach to issues and doctrine, I must remember Jesus came to save sinners. And that means rubbing elbows with sinners. Really evil sinners.
Dude this "pope" is evil. He doesn't worship the same God that you do.
God met with sinners, this man is the head of the Catholic church and he hates the Catholic church. He is not there to promote God but to destroy anything holy.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:51 am to burger bearcat
Before Papa Anticristo was selected, they were trying to decide how woke they would be, weighing such deep spiritual questions such as, "should our next religious hack-in-chief be Hispanic or black?"
They figured that Hispanics had more donors and more money, and they could get a Zimmerman-esque "white Hispanic", and they ended up with this pathetic loser, but all is well, because they've got a bumper crop of 11yo swarthy Latinos.
They figured that Hispanics had more donors and more money, and they could get a Zimmerman-esque "white Hispanic", and they ended up with this pathetic loser, but all is well, because they've got a bumper crop of 11yo swarthy Latinos.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:58 am to Stitches
The African Cardinals are old school Catholic, like St.Joseph Baltimore Catechism old school.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:58 am to Zarkinletch416
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Like I said I believe in the power of prayer. If we're troubled by the actions of others then we should pray for them. If the Holy Spirit leads you to confront them, do it with love. Always with love. As it applies to any concerns about the actions of this Pope I should comfort myself with Our Lord's own words..... "And I tell thee this in my turn, that thou art Peter, and it is upon this rock that I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". - Matthew 16:18. Ultimately it comes down to faith. Do I trust that Jesus will lead His Church through this crisis? He said He would. Shouldn't that be enough for us? Jesus, I trust in you.
Perhaps Jesus wants me to speak out against what I see as the evil infesting the Vatican.
FWIW, I have done so publicly, not simply online.
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"And I tell thee this in my turn, that thou art Peter, and it is upon this rock that I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it". - Matthew 16:18.
Just because “the gates of hell shall not prevail,” doesn’t mean that it won’t be under attack.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:06 pm to KiwiHead
My personal favorite African Cardinal? Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:06 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:Not on-topic, but reminds me of when people said "How can 0bama be a socialist if he didn't turn the government socialist?!" My response was always "Because we stopped him, idiot."
Just because “the gates of hell shall not prevail,” doesn’t mean that it won’t be under attack.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:07 pm to David_DJS
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I would like to still be a practicing Catholic. I hope to be able to do that again in good conscience before I die. But I cannot support in any way the Church as presently led. It's not that I think Francis is a bad pope, it's that I think he's evil.
I agree to a point.
However, I don’t view the church as evil, as I don’t view him as “the church.”
I view Benedict as the legitimate Pope, hence still apostolic.
If you wish to still be active, then perhaps you can join a group or organization aligned with traditional church views. I was encouraged to do this and fortunately followed through. In my case it was Paradisus Dei. You have many options. I hope that you consider that route.
Merry Christmas amigo.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 12:39 pm to David_DJS
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I hope to be able to do that again in good conscience before I die.
I'm sorry, brother that you're alienated from the Sacraments. I struggled with the same thing you did. Total revulsion from the sexual abuse scandal of the '70s and 80's. Ultimately it brought me to a visit with Our Lord Jesus in an Adoration Chapel. As I knelt in front of Him I pleaded with Him to lift this burden of mistrust for the Catholic Church from my heart. I felt a weariness, as if a close friend had betrayed me. I sat down to be quiet, picked up the Bible, and thumbed through it.
My eyes came to rest upon this scripture passage from Matthew.....
"Come to me, all you that labour and are burdened; I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon yourselves, and learn from me; I am gentle and humble of heart; and you shall find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light". - Matthew 11:28-30
Your Words, Lord, are Spirit and Life - Psalm 19
Brother, Jesus is in the Living Bread. To receive Him means He pushes all the darkness lurking in my soul out of me. Then I can rest. All the hurt, the anger, the feeling of betrayal, even my guilt. But then, I'm not telling you something you don't already know.
I can only tell you how I dealt with the feelings of betrayal. Please pray for me, as I will for you. And let's promise right now to meet in heaven. Let's lift up our crosses, get back on the road and follow Jesus.
Fair Enough?
Jesus, I trust in you.
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/24/22 at 3:10 pm to burger bearcat
The great thing about liberalism is that it consumes itself. Liberals don’t believe in God much less go to church. In 20 years the only people available for cardinal will be red pills.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 3:35 pm to burger bearcat
Why do non-Catholics care?
Posted on 12/24/22 at 3:36 pm to burger bearcat
i think right now is the time where we need divine intervention.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:08 pm to nealnan8
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There can't be a new Pope, unless the current Pope dies.
How long did that take before the light bulb lit up?
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:22 pm to David_DJS
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I would like to still be a practicing Catholic. I hope to be able to do that again in good conscience before I die. But I cannot support in any way the Church as presently led. It's not that I think Francis is a bad pope, it's that I think he's evil.
You said it for me….EXACTLY!
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:31 pm to FooManChoo
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I’m not Catholic but I’ve studied it a bit and it does’t look good for the future of Catholicism.
What a surprise from the guy who posted on here that you do not believe that Roman Catholics can be counted as part of the Body of Christ, i.e. His Church! You are the most anti-Catholic person on this board by far. You lurk and post mainly to attack Roman Catholicism.
After you told us the name of YOUR Protestant sect, I looked it up. What I found is that your particular sect has less than 10,000 adherents. How many people in your particular brand of Protestantism? About 10,000 world-wide?
ALL of Christianity is under heavy influence to become Leftist. Roman Catholics have an advantage in that our Catechism is comprehensive and fully explained. It's not so easy to change it.
Foo, the OP clearly directs his inquiry to CATHOLICS. Why did you feel the need to inject your prejudiced opinions here?
This post was edited on 12/24/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 12/24/22 at 4:39 pm to Zarkinletch416
Jimmy and Zark, I appreciate your posts.
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