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re: Question for anti-covid19 vaccine posters: what would make you get the shot?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:19 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:19 pm to momentoftruth87
Meh, I am not against the vaccine but really see no point in getting it personally. Where I live in Missouri we pretty much stuck to the original two week shut down declaration, might have had an extra week but since that point life has been back to normal. Only time you are really reminded there is a pandemic going on is if you are right outside of Ft Leonard Wood because the military folks are forced to mask up. Outside of that, my life is back to normal. If the point of the shot is to return to normalcy, then I don't see the point.
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 12:58 pm to WeeWee
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what would make you get the shot?
Nothing, I am low risk, already had it, and still have antibodies as of the beginning of May 2021.
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% of the population that is fully vaccinated that will allow the CDC to say that we have reached herd immunity.
Why does COVID require vaccines to reach herd immunity, but just about every other disease talks about antibodies to reach herd immunity? The original statements from the CDC discussed needing 60% of the population to have antibodies, now they are demanding a larger percentage to have the vaccine to reach herd immunity. Why did they eliminate those of us with natural antibodies from the herd immunity equation?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:25 pm to WeeWee
Nothing short of Jesus returning and showing me 3 forms of ID and telling me that my only way into Heaven is to get vaccinated.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:28 pm to WeeWee
Nothing will make me want to change my God-given DNA
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:38 pm to WeeWee
I’m healthy. There’s scientific evidence that other vaccines may be associated with autism. At my age and health, there’s a 99+% survival rate. The CDC has recast their number of people affected and this isn’t in the pandemic mathematical category. Tell me again why I should get the vaccine (which really isn’t a vaccine)?
If your under 70 years old, there are more reasons to not take the shot than reasons to take it....
Turn off your tv........
If your under 70 years old, there are more reasons to not take the shot than reasons to take it....
Turn off your tv........
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:41 pm to WeeWee
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what would make you get the shot?
At this point, nothing.
I have two options:
1) Don't get the vaccine and risk getting a virus that has a near zero chance of killing me.
2) Take a vaccine that is unproven long term (and short term depending on your definition).
At this point, I'll risk Covid over unknown long term side effects.
This post was edited on 5/12/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:43 pm to WeeWee
Hookers and coke used to be big motivators for me but I’ve aged. Not to much would motivate me at this point.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:44 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Why does COVID require vaccines to reach herd immunity, but just about every other disease talks about antibodies to reach herd immunity?
Because there are only three ways to acquire antibodies:
1. Infection
2. Passive immunization which is where a person receives an antibody infusion.
3. Active immunization via vaccine.
Option #2 is not a good option for the population at large because antibody transfusions are expensive, potentially dangerous, and very temporary. Option #1 is not a good option because it takes too long for 60+% of the population to get antibodies naturally (to date 117,000,000 Americans have antibodies due to being fully vaccinated in less than 6 months vs only 31,500,000 Americans having possibly having antibodies from natural immunity during the roughly 18 months of the covid-19 pandemic), does nothing to address or reduce the healthcare resources being utilized by those that are sick, and most importantly the official mortality percentage is still 1.7% (we can avoid debating the accuracy of that number and covid deaths vs covid associated deaths and how many people have had covid and never knew it because 1.7% is the number that CDC is using and they get to decide what the numbers are). The CDC is only reporting 88 deaths among the 100,000,000+ Americans that have been fully vaccinated. So it is not safe or wise from a ethical or legal standpoint to recommend a path with a mortality percentage of 1.7% instead of something with a mortality percentage of 0.000075%. Plus vaccination is faster.
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Why did they eliminate those of us with natural antibodies from the herd immunity equation?
Honestly, it is to apease the masses and shut the sky screamers up. In theory, those of us with natural immunity (had it and recovered, FWIW I had covid last year so I consider myself in that group) should be immune to covid and its variants until the variants mutate enough that our immune system no longer recognizes them. However, it is extremely difficult, time consuming, and expensive to prove that theory. Since the public at large has lost faith in the process they are more likely to listen to the sky screamers than the people who actually know wtf they are talking about unless there is solid data to back it up. It is much easier, faster, cheaper, and safer to say that people who have recovered from covid need to get vaccinated to apease the masses and shut the skyscreamers up than it is to convince the masses that naturally immunity works too.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:46 pm to SaintInBham
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Hookers and coke used to be big motivators for me but I’ve aged. Not to much would motivate me at this point.
Oh come on. Getting the chance to punch your least favorite public figure in the face doesn't motivate you?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:51 pm to WeeWee
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Question for anti-covid19 vaccine posters: what would make you get the shot?
Ten million dollars, a guaranteed monthly romp in the sack with Milla Jovovich, lifetime exempt from paying taxes, and lifetime Emperor title for the USA.
That's probably enough.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:57 pm to dcrews
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Don't get the vaccine and risk getting a virus that has a near zero chance of killing me.
The virus doesn't have to kill you to want to avoid it. I had it and I have both vaccines. Actually having covid was way worse than getting the vaccine.
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Take a vaccine that is unproven long term (and short term depending on your definition).
You act like it is constantly being pumped into your body. The actual modRNA which is the active and experimental components of the vaccine stay in your body less than 48 hours. After 48 hours all the vaccine components have been broken down by lysosomes and is cleared out of the body. The body is responding to viral spike proteins presented on the plasma membrane of dendritic cells which is normal part of the immune system function.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:01 pm to Out da box
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There’s scientific evidence that other vaccines may be associated with autism.
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The CDC has recast their number of people affected and this isn’t in the pandemic mathematical category. Tell me again why I should get the vaccine (which really isn’t a vaccine)?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
It would take my personal risk or risk of an immediate family member (risk of long term damage or death from the virus) to significantly increase and 2-3 years of post-injection safety data.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:03 pm to WeeWee
I do not disagree with any points in your post. But, I also believe they can appease the masses and also keep the people with antibodies included in that magical number to get us to herd immunity. Of course, tracking it would make it difficult.
I also know one of the talking points was we don't know how long the antibodies would last; I am 15 months from suspected on having COVID and still have them. I say suspected because I've had antibodies since July 2020 (5 antibody positive blood donations), but all of my COVID tests returned negative.
Wasn't there also discussions of the R factor being below a certain number to get herd immunity; or am I mixing 2 different sets of facts?
I also know one of the talking points was we don't know how long the antibodies would last; I am 15 months from suspected on having COVID and still have them. I say suspected because I've had antibodies since July 2020 (5 antibody positive blood donations), but all of my COVID tests returned negative.
Wasn't there also discussions of the R factor being below a certain number to get herd immunity; or am I mixing 2 different sets of facts?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:04 pm to WeeWee
Why do I need/have to get the gene therapy shot is a better question?
Why are people like you who is “immunized” so worried about healthy people like me who doesn’t need it?
Why are people like you who is “immunized” so worried about healthy people like me who doesn’t need it?
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:04 pm to WeeWee
The vaccine is not a necessity for herd immunity.
I'd feel better in about 10 years to ensure no long term side affects of this new vaccine technology.
I'd feel better in about 10 years to ensure no long term side affects of this new vaccine technology.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:05 pm to WeeWee
FDA approval after adequate testing would be an outstanding place to start.
It amazes me how bent out of shape the left gets at the mere intimation that someone doesn't want to be a human guinea pig, though.
Funny how "my body, my choice" goes right out the window.
It amazes me how bent out of shape the left gets at the mere intimation that someone doesn't want to be a human guinea pig, though.
Funny how "my body, my choice" goes right out the window.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:06 pm to WeeWee
7. My daughter not having food to eat.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:08 pm to Beauw
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If people get it, and they're "vaccinated", why the hell would they care if others dont?
It tips the liberal hand of that creeping rot of totalitarianism that lurks behind every bleeding heart. They're smarter than you are. Just ask them.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:10 pm to WeeWee
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You act like it is constantly being pumped into your body. The actual modRNA which is the active and experimental components of the vaccine stay in your body less than 48 hours. After 48 hours all the vaccine components have been broken down by lysosomes and is cleared out of the body. The body is responding to viral spike proteins presented on the plasma membrane of dendritic cells which is normal part of the immune system function.
Thanks for proving this is an experiment!
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