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re: Putin Calls Ukraine a terrorist state and you don’t negotiate with terrorist

Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:11 am to
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12331 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:11 am to
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The reason for sharing is that negotiations are over there won’t be a peace deal and Trump will have to decide to walk away or support Ukraine. I believe a good middle ground would be pass the senate sanctions package Cut all intelligence sharing, logistics, and support to Ukraine and send the remaining weapons appointed in the aid bill and tell Europe it’s your problem you wanted this war.


Ok. We know Putin only wants a peace deal that entails Ukraine not being able to defend themselves against future attacks. So that’s essentially no peace deal being offered. There is no viable peace deal with Russia on the table.

The negotiations over there have to be centered around knowing there is no real peace being offered.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
3410 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:18 am to
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Ok. We know Putin only wants a peace deal that entails Ukraine not being able to defend themselves against future attacks. So that’s essentially no peace deal being offered. There is no viable peace deal with Russia on the table. The negotiations over there have to be centered around knowing there is no real peace being offered.


Sort of like what happened to Japan and Germany after they lost their war

The negotiations are meant to iron out details during negotiations Ukraine went after their nuclear bombers and blew up a bridge on top a civilian train.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:20 am to
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How many Russians were killed in Ukraine for just being Russian and, wanting to be part of Russia again before the invasion.


Man some of you are totally lost on the sauce

Go outside for a bit
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6269 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:25 am to
You really going to pretend the casualty rate is 22:1?

It is well documented the Russians have a higher casualty rate.

To what degree is where it’s questionable, it’s definitely not the fantasy numbers the Z Bros put out there, but more like 1.5 Russians per 1 Ukrainian.

Russia definitely hasn’t had 1mm casualties unless they are including paper cuts. I would bet more like 400-500k range, the number of confirmed war dead on russias side is about 107,000 (BBC and Russian media collaboration)
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16568 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:30 am to
Putin doing Putin stuff.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13703 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:36 pm to
quote:


quote:
How many Russians were killed in Ukraine for just being Russian and, wanting to be part of Russia again before the invasion.


Man some of you are totally lost on the sauce

Go outside for a bit


Take your own advice, nerd.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2300 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:41 pm to
LOL

Putin is such a bitch.

Bend over, bitch, Ukraine has another drone going straight in dry
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:47 pm to
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what a crybaby bitch.

that is not what that looked like

at all
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:51 pm to
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How many Russians were killed in Ukraine for just being Russian and, wanting to be part of Russia again before the invasion.


You tell us. That is a falsifiable claim.

No one recognizes unilateral secession. It doesn't matter if you want to be part of another country or independent. You definitely don't sneak your army into the country and fracture it because you don't like the prevailing trends.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37571 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:53 pm to
Are you growing a goatee to cover up the stretch marks? How's that leakage problem on the other end?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Yes you do. You know its not accurate because the War would be over if it was. Ukraine would be in Crimea. What we do have is actual KIA numbers from bloated lactic acid filled cold dead bodies verified by the Red Cross. 


The most accurate method for counting KIA, trawling obituaries in Ukraine and Russia, shows similar numbers of casualties on both sides.

You have to do a better job curating your sources. You post a lot of meaningless nonsense.

quote:

The numbers tell you why Zelensky is begging like a bitch for a Ceasefire


Lol that was not the purpose of that. It was to demonstrate that regardless of Ukraine's bargaining position, the Russians were negotiating in bad faith. You are incredibly stupid, my god.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Putin so much cooler than Zelenskyyy


Heh, how me Vladdy doing this.....

Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:00 pm to
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The most accurate method for counting KIA, trawling obituaries in Ukraine and Russia, shows similar numbers of casualties on both sides. You have to do a better job curating your sources. You post a lot of meaningless nonsense.


Get back in your OT hole, doormat.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:01 pm to
Are you back for another English lesson?
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:03 pm to
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You really going to pretend the casualty rate is 22:1?

It is well documented the Russians have a higher casualty rate.

To what degree is where it’s questionable, it’s definitely not the fantasy numbers the Z Bros put out there, but more like 1.5 Russians per 1 Ukrainian.

Russia definitely hasn’t had 1mm casualties unless they are including paper cuts. I would bet more like 400-500k range, the number of confirmed war dead on russias side is about 107,000 (BBC and Russian media collaboration)


What the frick are you talking about?

How can a country with 10:1 artillery advantage, 20:1 aviation bomb advantage, 5:1 drone advantage have higher casualties?

The body exchanges are always 10:1 in favor of Russia, Ukraine is constantly losing land and retreating.

In which universe does Ukraine inflict more casualties on Russia?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:04 pm to
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How can a country with 10:1 artillery advantage, 20:1 aviation bomb advantage, 5:1 drone advantage have higher casualties?



When you put it like that, it is any wonder why they are still bogged down in Eastern Ukraine.

Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:05 pm to
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that is not what that looked like

at all


He's complaining about war activity while he's at war.

It's crybaby shite.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:06 pm to
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Are you back for another English lesson?


Are you off your transvestite medication, freak?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:07 pm to
You sure are salty about the English lesson, aren't you?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19297 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:07 pm to
All things aside.

How the frick is Ukraine the terrorist for hitting military targets and killing zero Russians while Russia lobs cruise missiles into shopping centers?
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