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re: Putin announces a temporary Easter ceasefire in Ukraine & prisoner exchange

Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:14 pm to
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My bad


See the difference between my question and yours? My question specifically addresses what the debate was about..

Difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever"


Now if I would have said "In 2022 we had the Highest Inflation Ever" then I would have been incorrect. If you want the full context of the debate here is the link to the Money Talk Thread. LSURussian's question

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So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"??


That is why my Grok question clearly asked "Difference between Record Inflation vs Highest Inflation Ever" The answer to his question could not be more clear


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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:36 pm to
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See the difference between my question and yours?
That was the point.

See the difference between my answer and yours?
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:08 pm to
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they use different examples. You obviously asked about "Record High" which is not what I said or the debate is about. Its "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever"








John Barron:



Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:11 pm to
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That was the point.


Your question did not address the specific question I just posted LSURussian asked in the Money Talk Thread

"So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"??


Your question does not mention "Record inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever". Why are you acting suprised you got a different answer when you didn't ask the question relevant to the debate. When someone ask a specific question why wouldn't you ask the same specific question to Grok? You accused me of doing exactly what you did

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If that's what you said, it's odd phraseology. You'll find AI will skew answers to what it thinks you want. 


Difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever" is not a odd phraseology. It is a specific question that matches exactly the question asked by LSURussian. Your question does not do the same










Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:22 pm to
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NC_Tigah


And just to solidify this argument because I am not wasting more time on boomers who don't have 1st grade reading comprehension. I just asked Grok the exact question from LSURussian in the Money Talk Thread. It's funny to watch you keep embarrassing yourselves when your own words are being used

Exact LSURussian Question: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?




Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:21 pm to
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I'm going to set the over/under for how many missiles/drones Russia attacks Ukraine with during the ceasefire at 50.


Way way too low.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:17 am to
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I am not wasting more time on boomers who don't have 1st grade reading comprehension.
Tisk tisk.

IDK if Russian is a ""Boomer"" or not. But if you're insufficient at assembling an argument, and decide to retreat to childishness and insults, at least get that aspect right .... i.e., "who have 1st grade reading comprehension."

Flopping in an argument, then whiffing in various obloquies intended as a distraction from the flop is not a good look.

BTW: Just so you'll know, Russian is not just multilingual, his reading comprehension is orthographical, including Cyrillic.


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And just to solidify this argument
Your "reading comprehension" quip directed at others is an ironical projection, given your inability to understand what I was trying to help you with.

Let's Review:
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You'll find AI will skew answers to what it thinks you want. So if you throw in a qualifier like "in the last 40yrs," it will try to do something with the qualifier, even if it diminishes accuracy of the actual result.
As you didn't seem to comprehend the teaching moment offered with politesse, here's a more blunt offering:
If your idiotic prompt carries in it a false premise (e.g., an imbecilic and leading prompt like: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?), AI engines will do their best, within their programming parameters, to agree with your false premise.

Yet in reality, if the best time ever in a race occurred 40 yrs ago, and a modern runner comes within a second of it (posting the fastest time in 5yrs), no one (except an oafishly prompted AI) is going to address the modern effort as a World Record.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:59 pm to
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I'm going to set the over/under for how many missiles/drones Russia attacks Ukraine with during the ceasefire at 50.
So what was the end result?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:07 pm to
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If your idiotic prompt carries in it a false premise (e.g., an imbecilic and leading prompt like: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?), AI engines will do their best, within their programming parameters, to agree with your false premise.


Not only are you a retard but you are a liar. My prompt did not carry a false premise or leading prompt like you just posted in the quote above. I posted multiple times now my exact prompt but you continue to ignore it. Are you severely retarded or just a liar? Maybe both? Why are you posting prompts that I did not use?



Exact Prompt Used: Difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever"


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:50 pm to
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prompt like: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?
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you are a liar. My prompt did not carry a false premise or leading prompt like you just posted in the quote above.

It was your prompt

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Was this not your post?
Does the prompt you cited not read: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?

Dude, just fyi I'm neither a retard nor a liar, and I was trying to be helpful in the initial response here. It's fairly apparent you were unaware AI can be skewed through prompt. That's not terribly distinguishing, frankly. I'd suspect most users are unaware as to how far AI can be led toward a misleading or flattly false answer. If you're not careful, you're going to find yourself getting misled. That's what seems to have happened here. But your responses are so overly defensive, and inappropriate e.g., "Uh, you taught a Wharton? So what?" that it's hard to have empathy, much less sympathy when you get tangled with someone like Russian in an economic discussion.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Dude, just fyi I'm neither a retard nor a liar


Yes you are. The "So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"? was LSURussians exact question not mine. I posted 4x now my exact prompt and screenshotted it

John Barron's Exact Prompt: "Difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever"






The prompt that I just posted.. show me the false premise or leading prompt. It does not have any. You continue to ignore my prompt that I have posted 4x in this thread. I will give you 1 last chance to address the prompt and screenshot that I posted and tell me how that is a leading or false premise prompt. Let's see if you continue to ignore the question

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Let's see if you continue to ignore the question
Not a matter of ignoring. It was your prompt, on your platform. If you made it clear you were using someone else's words in your prompt, I simply missed that. Nonetheless, the answer you received to both prompts is crap. Sorry you were misled and got taken to task.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Nonetheless, the answer you received to both prompts is crap


Again..You are claiming my prompt was a false premise or leading prompt which it is not. Next time just say you don't like the answer given but don't waste everyone's time by making up a lie saying the prompt was a false premise or leading when it was not

John Barron's Exact Prompt: "Difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever"






Just like when a meteorologist says we are having "Record Heat" it does not mean we had the "Hottest Day Ever"




"Difference between Record Heat vs Hottest Day Ever"

Record Heat: Refers to temperatures that exceed previously recorded highs for a specific date, location, or time period. It indicates an unusually hot day compared to historical data for that context but doesn't necessarily mean it's the hottest day ever recorded.

Hottest Day Ever: Refers to the single highest temperature ever recorded in a given location or globally, regardless of the date or time period. It represents an absolute peak in temperature records.

Key Difference: Record heat is relative to a specific context (e.g., a day, month, or place), while the hottest day ever is an absolute record for a location or globally. For example, a city might experience "record heat" for July 10th if it’s hotter than any previous July 10th, but it may not be the "hottest day ever" if a higher temperature was recorded on another date.







This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:00 pm to
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You are claiming my prompt
SMH.
Who typed the prompt we are discussing into the AI engine we are discussing?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Record Heat: Refers to temperatures that exceed previously recorded highs for a specific date, location, or time period.
Record Heat: Refers to temperatures that exceed previously recorded highs for a specified date, specified location, or specified time period.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:31 pm to
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I'm going to set the over/under for how many missiles/drones Russia attacks Ukraine with during the ceasefire at 50.

So what was the end result?
Putin went WAY over in drone attacks during his self-declared ceasefire. Over by several hundred.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:32 pm to
You cut off half the response. That is not surprising considering we established you are a liar in this thread. And you actually had the nerve to say "I simply missed that." when this is what was posted...

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Exact LSURussian Question: So "record inflation" does not mean "highest inflation ever"?





Record Heat: Refers to temperatures that exceed previously recorded highs for a specific date, location, or time period. It indicates an unusually hot day compared to historical data for that context but doesn't necessarily mean it's the hottest day ever recorded.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:45 pm to
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It indicates an unusually hot day compared to historical data for that context but doesn't necessarily mean it's the hottest day ever recorded.
because

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not

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specified

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Record Heat: Refers to temperatures that exceed previously recorded highs for a specified date, specified location, or specified time period.


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And you actually had the nerve to say "I simply missed that." when this is what was posted...
Yes.
I actually had the nerve to say what was unclear to me.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 5:55 pm to
NC_, you have to remember you're arguing with a guy who told everyone for months that he lives and works in Las Vegas but a month or so ago he referred to a congressional district being "here in Florida."

When I reminded him that if he lives in Las Vegas how can he refer to a congressional district being "here" in Florida?

His reply was "here" does not mean I live in Florida.

This is my favorite gif of Comrade Snitchkovsky explaining something...


This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 6:06 pm
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 6:16 pm to
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His reply was just because he refers to being "here in Florida" it doesn't mean he's in Florida


I never said I was "here in Florida." Your consistent lying is pathetic. I said "Dems spent 10 million here" and posted the Florida race. That does not mean I personally live in Florida retard.
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Not surprising coming from a person with a run of the mill business degree who does not know the difference between "Record Inflation" vs "Highest Inflation Ever" That chemo really did some real damage to your brain. That is still no excuse for being a scumbag liar. And once again you edited your post because your a liar. That's ok... I quoted your original post before you edited it scumbag


This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 6:24 pm
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