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re: Pulmonologist Roy Culotta at Baton Rouge General posted about current situation
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:59 am to Shaft Williams
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:59 am to Shaft Williams
If these people had been prescribed medication when they were diagnosed they wouldn't have ended up in the hospital.
Referencing the thread with numerous examples of people being given nothing after their diagnosis.
Referencing the thread with numerous examples of people being given nothing after their diagnosis.
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:02 pm to omegaman66
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Does he give his patients ivermectin? If not then he sucks as a doctor
Well according to what was posted earlier if gave large enough doses to be effective he would really suck as a doctor.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:02 pm to STEVED00
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And yet doctors continue to prescribe it and their patients continue to feel better.
Ivermectin is prescribed at lower doses. Nobody is prescribing at the dosages needed to have an antiviral effect. The results of those lower dosages of ivermectin are not much better than the results from placebo groups. So the patients that got it would like have recovered without it, but the doctors doing telemedicine out of Texas and prescribing it thank you for wasting your $$$ on an appointment for them to prescribe a drug that you very likely didn't need.
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It’s almost like there is an effort to push back on actual treatments in lieu of a shiny new “cure” that can be injected in the arm.
You do not need a cure if you can prevent 80-90% of the cases in the first place. It's not a concerted effort or pushback it is just that the medical community is 17 months into this pandemic and we are tired and we are sick of people ignoring stuff that has mountains of real life and strong evidence to support it and would end this pandemic in favor of stuff that has very little evidence to support and what evidence there is to support is either theoretical or extremely weak and even if it works just prolongs it.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:03 pm to tigerskin
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Each patient regrets not having gotten the vaccine when it was first offered.
I'll hear it from them, thanks.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:03 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Well yeah, if everyone is vaccinated your only cases will be vaccinated people
Actually, its more complicated than that.
No, it wouldn’t be more complicated than that.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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wrote Cobia, a hospitalist at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, in an emotional Facebook post Sunday.
WTF is a hospitalist? Totally not made up
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:04 pm to tigerskin
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No, it wouldn’t be more complicated than that.
Yes it is.
You have multiple groups which are impacted differently. What you are suggesting is meaningless. At this point, the majority of people have already had rona at least once.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:05 pm to lowhound
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WTF is a hospitalist? Totally not made up
Are you people serious right now
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:05 pm to mouton
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you could get it, barely have any symptoms and spread it to someone who is 70 with pre-existing conditions
If you’re in this demographic it’s your responsibility to get the vaccination. If you are under 65 and have very little risk of dying from Covid, it’s a whole different thing.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:06 pm to lowhound
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WTF is a hospitalist? Totally not made up
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hospitalist?utm_campaign=sd&utm_medium=serp&utm_source=jsonld
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:08 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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No, it wouldn’t be more complicated than that.
Yes it is. You have multiple groups which are impacted differently. What you are suggesting is meaningless.
What I am suggesting is math: if everyone is vaccinated, the only people that can get Covid are vaccinated
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:08 pm to hnds2th
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If you’re in this demographic it’s your responsibility to get the vaccination. If you are under 65 and have very little risk of dying from Covid, it’s a whole different thing.
The guy doesn't make any sense at all.
- A vaccinated person can get infected and transmit
- A non-vaccinated person can get infected and transmit
- A vaccinated person previously infected I would assume can be infected and transmit
Basically, he is describing everyone on the planet as a "spreader", so why doesn't he jump off a cliff and save the rest of us?
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:08 pm to tigerskin
So the vaccination percentages don't take into account people that were previously infected and not getting a vaccine. Studies are showing that previously infected people are way more unlikely to get infected again compared to vaccinated people that were never infected. There were also a lot more people that were previously infected and were never tested. I personally know a bunch of people that had it, never got tested, and had very minimal symptoms while they quarantined at home. The majority of these people are not getting the vaccine. This is why local governments can't make decisions based on vaccination rates, the data is very flawed.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
New data just released from the State
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Hospitalizations from COVID-19 in Louisiana rose to 844 patients Wednesday afternoon, the highest levels since mid-February, according to a noon update from the Louisiana Department of Health.
Louisiana also reported an additional 3,264 confirmed cases of the coronavirus Wednesday — the largest batch of new infections since January 15, when the state was in the thick of a deadly, winter surge.
Another 9 people died from COVID-19 in Louisiana, the state reported.
quote:https://www.wafb.com/page/one-stop-shop-stats-links-related-to-covid-19/
As of Wednesday, July 21, the Louisiana Department of Health reported the following coronavirus cases for the state:
506,882 total cases - 5,388 new cases
10,874 total deaths - 13 new deaths
844 patients in hospitals - increase of 19 patients
64 patients on ventilators - increase of 9 patients
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:09 pm to WeeWee
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Nobody is prescribing at the dosages needed to have an antiviral effect.
Pretty much every study I have seen concerning Ivermectin was either flawed, or abandoned. Yet in the cases where it was prescribed, the results, while anecdotal, seem encouraging.
Lastly, if it cheap, and there is virtually no downside from a healthcare perspective, then why not prescribe it, even if only for a placebo effect?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:10 pm to Mickey Goldmill
You and your ilk (JBE etc.) really must love y’all some lockdowns.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Bottom line is COVID-19 is a new phenomenon and treatment is a moving target.
Wash your hands a lot!
Wash your hands a lot!
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:15 pm to hnds2th
Interesting graphs that show 70 and over crowd not getting it as much compared to the other age groups in Louisiana
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:15 pm to jimmy the leg
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You and your ilk (JBE etc.) really must love y’all some lockdowns.
They're trying to hide the truth based on some of this limited information. Limited protection of the vaccine to those that haven't been previously infected. The people that have previously infected, have really no reason to take the vaccine even if one is in the 1% risk category.
I would gather that the majority of the population has been infected at least once by now.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 12:17 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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64 patients on ventilators
To put this in perspective, 571 patients were on ventilators at one point during the initial surge.
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