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re: Publix Goes Full Retard On Gun Control On 9/11

Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:38 pm to
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Says the guy that wants to force businesses hands by government action.


But the government already does that. If you can’t kick out some guy for wearing a dress there’s no additional regulation needed; gun owners are just asking to be protected like other special classes. Whether I agree with it or not it’s not unreasonable.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:39 pm to
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2nd Amendment.


In the purest form I agree. But until they(Fed Gov) institutes national open/conceal carry it isn't.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:41 pm to
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If you can’t kick out some guy for wearing a dress there’s no additional regulation needed; gun owners are just asking to be protected like other special classes. Whether I agree with it or not it’s not unreasonable.


Protected classes are ridiculous. However, the answer to government regulation issues isn't more government regulation. If as a business owner, I do not want to you to do something on my property, I shouldn't be forced to allow it.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:46 pm to
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I do not want to you to do something on my property, I shouldn't be forced to allow it.


Within reason of peoples "rights"

Now, is it a right to open carry within that state where the said business resides?

Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:48 pm to
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otherwise he is finished.

Businesses are free to ask anything they choose from their customers, right?

Right?

You don't have to shop there.
(I may not)
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:50 pm to
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Within reason of peoples "rights" Now, is it a right to open carry within that state where the said business resides?


You're very inconsistent on this. I can limit someone's first amendment rights but not a state law?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:51 pm to
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conceal carry is just as effective


Well, that isn't true.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:51 pm to
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Businesses are free to ask anything they choose from their customers, right?


Apparently the government should force businesses to do only things MrLarson wants them to do.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:57 pm to
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I can limit someone's first amendment rights but not a state law?


Which First Amendment Right?

Yelling "frick white people" in your business? How many laws does that violate?

Go back to the playground.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:01 pm to
I’ll just go to ingles

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21790 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:01 pm to
It’s not more government regulation. The government already does this.

If gays were exempted from property taxes and I petitioned to have them pay property taxes just like straight people, am I asking for more government? Or am I just asking for equal treatment?
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:03 pm to
Crying and name calling isn't going to help your understanding of government.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:03 pm to
They are allowed to ask me not to.

But I’m also allowed to go to Harris teeter too.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:06 pm to
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If gays were exempted from property taxes and I petitioned to have them pay property taxes just like straight people, am I asking for more government? Or am I just asking for equal treatment?


You're missing the distinction between a government entity doing something and a private business doing something. The government shouldn't tell me who I bake a cake for or who I let in my store. Because the government figuratively points a gun at me and says I have to let a man in a dress in my store doesn't mean they should do the same with a person carrying a pistol. They should stop telling me who I can and can't serve.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:13 pm to
Publix doesn't want open carry in their store.
I respect their right to run their business as they see fit.
I don't have to agree with them, or shop in their store.

Their business.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:13 pm to
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quote:
conceal carry is just as effective



Well, that isn't true.


So you are a Publix and someone just happens decide they are going to rob the store. He sees a gun on your hip. Boom, you are first target. I am 10 steps behind you but concealed. Who is more effective at protecting one's self? Whether you get involved with an active shooter at that point is up to you. I think it depends on whether your life or family are in danger. The person could have an accomplice standing behind all of us with hand on their weapon. Most folks that teach this stuff say stay out of it until absolutely forced to engage.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Publix doesn't want open carry in their store. I respect their right to run their business as they see fit. I don't have to agree with them, or shop in their store. Their business.


This should be every conservative's answer.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:19 pm to
Wait what? one is ownership of something, the other ones have nothing to do with that

They are no infringing on your rights by making sure you can pass a certification test and keeping your gun up to date.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21790 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:21 pm to
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You're missing the distinction between a government entity doing something and a private business doing something.


No, I’m not. We’re talking about government forcing action in both examples.

quote:

They should stop telling me who I can and can't serve.


I completely agree. Until they do I don’t fault people for wanting the same bs “protections” they extend to others.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:21 pm to
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They are no infringing on your rights by making sure you can pass a certification test and keeping your gun up to date.


I think you're misunderstanding what a right is.
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