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re: Publix Goes Full Retard On Gun Control On 9/11

Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:48 pm to
Open carry is left up to the States.

Are businesses infringing on a States right?

Do you check State laws when bidding a job to protect yourself?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:51 pm to
Thank you for your service. Ok - you are a badass.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:51 pm to
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You are so backwards right now. You think the Bill of Rights protects someone walking in your business and setting an,American flag on fire or yelling "frick white people".


Your deductive reasoning is scary bad. I do not think that. In my business I can tell you to get the frick out if you're burning a flag or carrying a gun.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Open carry is left up to the States.

Are businesses infringing on a States right?

Do you check State laws when bidding a job to protect yourself?

If I show up to your house strapped, do you not have the right to tell me you don't want me carrying on your property?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71139 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:53 pm to
Thanks for your support.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:54 pm to
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The principle applies to anything, not just baseball. There are the rules you want, and there are the rules that exist. There’s no hypocrisy in using the rules that exist, even shen you don’t agree with them. We all do it every day.


Completely disagree. The single thing that makes this whole thing OK is you have the option to go elsewhere. If it were at a government supermarket, it would not be ok. You cannot just go to the national league (or create your own 3rd league) if you disagree with their rules.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:55 pm to
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If I show up to your house strapped, do you not have the right to tell me you don't want me carrying on your property?


I'll bet you $1000 he doesn't understand this analogy.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

If I show up to your house strapped, do you not have the right to tell me you don't want me carrying on your property?


Although it shouldn’t, the law already makes a huge distinction between private property and a business open to the public.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

Although it shouldn’t, the law already makes a huge distinction between private property and a business open to the public.



Are you saying property rights don't exist because you operate a business that's "open to the public"?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

If I show up to your house strapped, do you not have the right to tell me you don't want me carrying on your property?


Sigh,

One has to adhere to laws of doing business, one doesn't.



quote:

I'll bet you $1000 he doesn't understand this analogy.


I'll bet 10,000 you don't understand the difference.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:00 pm to
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One has to adhere to laws of doing business

Laws of doing business mean you have to let armed people on your property?

Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6465 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:03 pm to
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Businesses in which you have a consenting relationship should be able to do fully as they please


How far does this go? At what point does the right of the business start to infringe on the right of the individual?

Can a business seize any customer's cell phone and go through it?
Can a business strip search anyone they want under the guise of "looking for stolen property?"
Can a business search any vehicle in their parking lot?

If not, why are businesses allowed to go against some laws but not others? Can they only ignore laws that grant freedoms instead of denying them?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:03 pm to
Let's take it a bit further so you dolts(and I don't mean this bad, Up)

Let's say I'm a huge racist and a black man walks up to my house, I say get off my property n****r.

Now

I bought a business license with the state, county and city and I do the same.

Which one has legal repercussions?
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
13814 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:07 pm to
quote:

How far does this go? At what point does the right of the business start to infringe on the right of the individual?


A business has the right to have any policy they would like. It's up to the consumer to consent to them or go elsewhere.

quote:

Can a business search any vehicle in their parking lot?


I'm not going to go through all of your scenarios but I'll use this one as an example. If a business says if you would like to park in our private parking lot, you must let us search your vehicle, then yes. You have the right to go park elsewhere.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:10 pm to
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I'm not going to go through all of your scenarios but I'll use this one as an example. If a business says if you would like to park in our private parking lot, you must let us search your vehicle, then yes. You have the right to go park elsewhere.


Can I say we don't serve blacks at the front....go round back and we'll fix you up a mess of chittlins?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Let's take it a bit further so you dolts(and I don't mean this bad, Up)

Let's say I'm a huge racist and a black man walks up to my house, I say get off my property n****r.

Now

I bought a business license with the state, county and city and I do the same.

Which one has legal repercussions?


I'm not saying that these laws/premises are equally enforced. I'm saying that the less government mandates of what people/businesses can do on their own property, the better.
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
13814 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:13 pm to
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Can I say we don't serve blacks at the front....go round back and we'll fix you up a mess of chittlins


You should absolutely be able to refuse service to anyone you'd like. I shouldn't have to bake a cake for a gay wedding if I don't want to and if I don't want to serve said black person I shouldn't have to. Business transactions should all be voluntary for both parties. Now, the government intervenes(wrongly) on who they determine is a protected class. I can refuse service to a black person, but not based on the color of his/her skin.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying that these laws/premises are equally enforced. I'm saying that the less government mandates of what people/businesses can do on their own property, the better.


I enjoy most of your posts and think you're funny as hell. I'll just let this post stand where it is with no rebuttal
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:16 pm to
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The single thing that makes this whole thing OK is you have the option to go elsewhere.


So does the guy who wanted his gay wedding cake.
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