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Protestors and the Silent Majority - we have been doing this wrong, look at the numbers
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:11 am
I, like many on the OT, have been following the protests and related mayhem for the last couple of weeks. While I am not to the point of “this is the end of the USA” like some folks, I appreciate the sentiment. I was reading about the DC protests yesterday and how media is blowing this event up as such a major deal and then I read the numbers. The media got their crowd estimates from “law enforcement sources” and “BLM organizers” and we know that both parties like to exaggerate the numbers for propaganda. But let’s take the numbers at face value.
Let’s also assume, for this discussion, that all protestors are local. This gives them maximum value but realistically many in the DC protest probably travelled.
I looked it up and the DC metro area has 6.2 million residents.
The “massive protest” (every media source terms it this way) drew 200,000. Help me with my math here but that looks to be 3% of the population.
200,000 / 6,200,000 = .032
Meanwhile 97% of our society is going to work, feeding our kids and being held hostage to these peoples shouted demands as they throw temper tantrums and burn our businesses? Our politicians are coddling these fricks and promising to give them billions of our tax dollars, to “transform” our police and to change the way we live our daily lives. For 3%? What about me and my neighbors and the taxpayers in my city? Are we ignored because we aren’t out burning and looting? Time for the Silent Majority to get not silent I say. frick these losers and their fringe demands.
Let’s also assume, for this discussion, that all protestors are local. This gives them maximum value but realistically many in the DC protest probably travelled.
I looked it up and the DC metro area has 6.2 million residents.
The “massive protest” (every media source terms it this way) drew 200,000. Help me with my math here but that looks to be 3% of the population.
200,000 / 6,200,000 = .032
Meanwhile 97% of our society is going to work, feeding our kids and being held hostage to these peoples shouted demands as they throw temper tantrums and burn our businesses? Our politicians are coddling these fricks and promising to give them billions of our tax dollars, to “transform” our police and to change the way we live our daily lives. For 3%? What about me and my neighbors and the taxpayers in my city? Are we ignored because we aren’t out burning and looting? Time for the Silent Majority to get not silent I say. frick these losers and their fringe demands.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:12 am to jbgleason
I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:15 am to jbgleason
Show your solidarity by pointing a gun at pregnant woman.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:16 am to jbgleason
I couldn't care less about the numbers, but
I am right there with you on this.
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frick these losers and their fringe demands.
I am right there with you on this.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:16 am to The Boat
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Show your solidarity by pointing a gun at pregnant woman.
WWGFD
What would george floyd do
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:16 am to jbgleason
I believe that after the election is over the Dems will promptly return to form and subtly abandon all the talk of coming to the aid of minority communities.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:18 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform
Agree, strength our criminal defense system, and give police higher budget.
Blue lives matter
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:18 am to ykevin25
Probably both, but that doesn't change that the police / criminal justice system isn't working and needs major overall. See failed war on drugs, for profit prisons, our prison population relative to other countries, etc. Plus police reform is actually something you can implement.
We are wasting so much money and seeing no kind of positive results. Certainly not the only areas we need reform either. Don't mind the protests if they are able to get some needed reforms - definitely not a fan of the violence that has come along with it though.
We are wasting so much money and seeing no kind of positive results. Certainly not the only areas we need reform either. Don't mind the protests if they are able to get some needed reforms - definitely not a fan of the violence that has come along with it though.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:18 am to jbgleason
tl;dr.
Did see 97% of society is going back to work line. How can that be when the unemployment rate is over 13%?
Did see 97% of society is going back to work line. How can that be when the unemployment rate is over 13%?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:18 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform
What do you suggest these reforms should look like?
What do you want changed?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:19 am to jbgleason
It’s all for show. Anyone who can’t see this is dumb. Black lives only matter in 2016 and 2020
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:19 am to jbgleason
That’s about as many with the ‘rona
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:19 am to jbgleason
I agree completely with your sentiment and I think the Silent Majority exists, which is why Trump won in 2016. However
Is not true at all. I live in a poor, majority white (and native American) area and the amount of freeloading trash that exists is astounding to me. There is a large portion of the population eating government cheese, and they’re not who you may think...Shaniqua with 4 kids by different daddies living in the hood. It’s more like Michelle who is overweight and claims disability because of fibromyalgia or some nonsense.
My state was one of two that every county went red in 2016. We have a LOT of takers that aren’t among the small minority of people protesting. Our economy is under tremendous strain from these people and I’m afraid it’s going to get worse because of the coronavirus UBI income experiment.
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97% of our society is going to work
Is not true at all. I live in a poor, majority white (and native American) area and the amount of freeloading trash that exists is astounding to me. There is a large portion of the population eating government cheese, and they’re not who you may think...Shaniqua with 4 kids by different daddies living in the hood. It’s more like Michelle who is overweight and claims disability because of fibromyalgia or some nonsense.
My state was one of two that every county went red in 2016. We have a LOT of takers that aren’t among the small minority of people protesting. Our economy is under tremendous strain from these people and I’m afraid it’s going to get worse because of the coronavirus UBI income experiment.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:20 am to Sneaky__Sally
You're right. I agree we badly need to reform law enforcement. We need to give them more teeth to enforce the law. They should have had the autonomy to put down a few of these whiney, screaching NEETs from the get go, and squashed this whole thing before they started burning down cities.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:20 am to Ponchy Tiger
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What do you suggest these reforms should look like? What do you want changed?
They can start with attitude. You’re lying to everyone and yourself if you’ve never ran into a cop or have seen a cop on video being a dick because he think he’s untouchable.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:22 am to jbgleason
I understand what you’re saying but getting 50,000 people together to turn out for a single cause, and one that may end up in a direct confrontation with cops and national guard is a huge deal, much less 200,000.
I remember hearing a politician say that for every email/letter her got he assumed 10-15 people cared about the topic. Every phone call, close to 100. I’d be curious what the math is on grass roots protestors (not paid agitators).
I remember hearing a politician say that for every email/letter her got he assumed 10-15 people cared about the topic. Every phone call, close to 100. I’d be curious what the math is on grass roots protestors (not paid agitators).
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:23 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I'm not protesting but we do need major police reform
That's the problem. If people really feel that way, then alienating over half the population by making it about race, which it isn't, isn't the way to go.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:24 am to Boring
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There is a large portion of the population eating government cheese, and they’re not who you may think
It’s exactly who I think.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:24 am to Sneaky__Sally
Can you provide some examples of the needed reforms? It seems to me the only "reform" being discussed is the abolition of police departments. We may get a glimpse of this if/when PD's across the country have had enough and go on strike.
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