re: Props to John Fetterman, if Dems want to regain popularity support stuff like this not

Contrary to what most fatties and people looking for diet shortcut believe, there is a finite supply of medication and A1C reducers for actual diabetics. People who actually need insulin (fast and slow release), A1C, and glucose monitors are having a difficult time finding or affording them due to all the people looking for quick fixes which is all they are. And before anyone suggests that all Type 2 diabetics are overweight, they aren’t and Type 1 diabetics don’t have a functioning pancreas in terms of natural insulin so diet cannot reverse it.

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Your party is dead.

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It has transitioned to the party of no gonads, no identity, no common sense, and they/them are almost in a no win situation.

Insurance companies are tightening up parameter for preauthorization of these meds and consistent weight loss has to be documented n order for payment to continue.

In VA healthcare, a veteran has to have a documented BMI of >40 with another comorbidity in order to get approved.

So it's not like John Fatty is chomping away at the Cheetos while injecting himself. There's plenty of adults who struggle with obesity yet limit caloric intake and exercise, whether it's due to DM Type 2, or other metabolic disorders.

ive lost 38 llbs since january 7th, no drugs. no extra exercise, just consistently eating about 500 fewer calories than my body burns each day. and its been almost no effort involved, just a tiny bit of willpower.

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you incentivize something you get more of it. Incentivize free/cheap drugs so you can eat worse than a pig but not look like one then you will get mote of it.

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I get where you are coming from but your lack of knowledge about Mounjaro shows here. The weekly injection works in 2 ways:

1) It slows the digestion of food and extends how long someone feels full

2) It somehow eliminates cravings. This, in my opinion, holds the most exciting possibilities in that it can break the mental addiction to foods while the lower calorie intake can begin the body cycle reset. People who’ve taken Mounjaro have also experienced lower interest in alcohol and cigarettes.

Simply put, with the cravings eliminated and the lower calorie intake driven by the longer sensation of “fullness” it’s possible to insert better eating habits. It would have to be implemented in coalition with stricter food benefits that encouraged more healthy purchases but it’s one of the easiest and cost effective ways of breaking the fat, unhealthy lifestyles of many Americans.

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The upfront cost of just the manufacturing of a Biological Drug is enormous, let alone adding in the R&D costs it took to get it there.

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Agree, but it’s offset by volume over time, in this case.
A RD surcharge of say $5/dose is going to add up in a hurry, 30MM+ overweight people will pay that $20/mos, ($7.2B per year) so the question is how much is actual cost of production + OHP, after R&D.

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The general consensus is nothing can be much worse than being morbidly obese, both in terms of health consequences and financial consequences.

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Ehhhh......

If being morbidly obese will kill you in 20 years, but getting cancer from this drug will kill you in 5...I'm not so sure the drug is better.

I'm not saying I've seen that happen, I'm just saying I don't think we really know what the potential long-term side effects could be yet.

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So does a low carb or keto diet,

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keto works, but it's not sustainable. Then when you stop cause your body requires lots of different types of food, including carbs, to be healthy, the weight comes roaring back. I went down that road. Best things to do is eat normally, just less than you are burning. Make sure you are not always eating calorie dense food, eat more vegetables, eat more soup, eat stuff with high water content. A 500 calorie per day deficit regardless what type of food you are eating is going to result in weight loss, it's just science and math. You can even just eat sugar and still lose weight if you eat less calories in sugar than what you burn, but you will have all kinds of other problems if you did that

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Research with Semaglutide has shown it can significantly decrease appetite by delaying gastric emptying and reducing intestinal motility

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no thanks, I enjoy intestinal motility

I'd guess that the cost

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Wegovy, and Mounjaro are prohibitively expensive

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includes the advertising budget going to every local tv station in all fifty states.

I have been watching more tv than I used to and I see at least one ad for each of them every damn evening. Not the fifteen second cheap ads, the two minute tells a story ads with lots of people, etc.