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re: Principal to suspend students that speak positively about ICE.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:49 pm to goatmilker
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:49 pm to goatmilker
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How many cases of bullying were based on free speech.
Free speech does not mean freedom from consequences. What do you suggest a school do when a student tells a teacher or the principal “fu** you, you stupid cu**”?
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:54 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I was thinking those words are not the discussion at hand
Insert " my dad works for ICE and I am proud of him and want to join one day"
Person of color is upset by this and goes to principal.
But you go argue with yourself in a closet.
Insert " my dad works for ICE and I am proud of him and want to join one day"
Person of color is upset by this and goes to principal.
But you go argue with yourself in a closet.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:19 pm to Night Vision
Dumbass conflate speech with behavior. He can just frick right off.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
You hurt my feelings not responding anymore 
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:23 pm to goatmilker
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How many cases of bullying were based on free speech.
All of them?
*ETA: at least the ones involving words
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:24 pm to goatmilker
quote:
Insert " my dad works for ICE and I am proud of him and want to join one day"
Those words are not the discussion at hand, either
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
How many times have they lost ? Schools overstepping their boundaries doesn’t work anymore
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
SlowFlow, responding to Jimmy is useless.
Facts? he is not capable of accepting them, nor can he understand the topic at hand.
Dont waste you're time, I think he is a Russian bot
He has yet to condemn/comment on the RI or Australian shootings until it fits his narrative.
Facts? he is not capable of accepting them, nor can he understand the topic at hand.
Dont waste you're time, I think he is a Russian bot
He has yet to condemn/comment on the RI or Australian shootings until it fits his narrative.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Heroes who risk their lives by doing their jobs, enforcing the laws passed by a bicameral Congress. fricking shame……
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's not what the principals letter says, FWIW.
Sounds to me that the principal and that school should have you on retainer.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:35 pm to udtiger
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ETA: This was posted at 10:22 a.m. and the resident "contrarians" - whose response time for other posts in this thread is under 5 minutes - have been remarkably quiet regarding this one.
ETA: 3:00 PM... still waiting
Another 24 hours... still waiting.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:42 pm to TheBeezer
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Sounds to me that the principal and that school should have you on retainer.
I doubt they'll need it based on the MN definition of bullying.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 3:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All you had to do is actually read the actual memo.
I did read it and it doesn't really identify what "language" falls under the disciplinary rules he alludes to. We shall see how that is handled.
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Discipline for comments "making light of immigration threats or referencing ICE in ways that cause fear or humiliation".
Showing positive support for ICE could fall under this reference, could. If a kid says he supports what ICE is doing for the community at school, it's quite plausible the school could take that as humiliating, and causes fear. So yes, the X message takes liberty of suggesting a kid could be suspended for speaking positively about ICE, but it's not out of the realm of possiblity.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:04 pm to JellyRoll
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Showing positive support for ICE could fall under this reference, could.
If you want it to yes, but its dishonesty to push engagement and ragebait.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:08 pm to Night Vision
western culture is completely cucked.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I made no comment on the actual policy,
At least you admit it finally. Your schtick is avoiding the actual topic, poking legalese holes where you can, and finally making it about yourself. Bravo
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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its dishonesty to push engagement and ragebait.
Click bait sure, but to claim that the possibility of being disciplined for showing support for ICE is only if I want it to, is void of reason.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:35 am to DawgCountry
quote:The TOPIC is an OP claiming that this school issued a policy directive that kids will get suspended for supporting ICE. That premise is utterly false.quote:At least you admit it finally. Your schtick is avoiding the actual topic, poking legalese holes where you can, and finally making it about yourself. Bravo
I made no comment on the actual policy,
You are trying to change the topic.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 8:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not what the principals letter says, FWIW.
It specifically references to ICE to bully students ("cause fear of humiliation" is the exact text).
Nowhere in the letter does it claim to punish "speaking positively about ICE". That's pure dishonesty (or an inability to read).
I actually agree with you.
If kids are taunting hispanic kids about ICE then the school should discipline them like any other similar conduct. My objection would be be to the vagueness (they should just say that) and the reference to "immigration threats" - not sure what that means and sounds skewed.
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