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re: Primary model gives Trump 91% chance of winning

Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Rasputin
Member since May 2020
6 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:01 am to
I guess my point was that if I had 10,000 posts, would I still be called a bot or an alter?? I don't know. Maybe so.
Posted by DemoJay
Kansas City
Member since Oct 2020
62 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:02 am to
I am certainly a pessimist this cycle, I just don't know if we'll mop the floor like the GOP did in '16.

I think we hold on to the senate though.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:04 am to
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Not a bot. Just haven't spent every waking moment posting on on here.

Gallup also consistently has the President underwater on approval rating. So even if a voter feels they are better off, they are not giving the President credit for it. And at this point, there are very few undecided voters versus 2016. I just don't see where the President's votes are going to come from. Of course folks will just say the polls are wrong like they were in 2016. But the President really benefited in 2016 from lots of undecided voters breaking his way just before the election. Don't see that happening this time around.




Joe will struggle to get as many votes as Hiltary. My guess is Trump wins the electoral count by a big margin plus a majority of overall votes.

Joe is a worse candidate than the diaper wearer.

So basically what you are saying is Joe is a better candidate than Hiltary. Good luck with that, they should have spent the last 4 years trying to develop a good candidate.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70333 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:10 am to
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And at this point, there are very few undecided voters versus 201


when cnn and others had biden +3 a couple weeks or so ago, they all said there was about 5% undecidsd.

now biden wins by 12-15% ???? where did that 10% come from?

polls are such garbage
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17298 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:29 am to
I read the other thread last night and the article from Spectator and I believe this. I believe this bc of boat parades, car parades and Joe Biden’s anemic looking “rallies.” It’s not as if the Democrats I know are so excited about Joe, they just hate Trump. These are informed and regular voters. They always show up to vote. Joe needs the Democrats, or really the independents who only go to vote if they are excited. Those people belong to the Orange Man.

Plus, for example, Trump (an incumbent) won the Louisiana Primary by 95/96 percent. That’s just republicans who showed up that day to vote for something else.

By contrast, Joe Biden, who by that point was the only candidate who hadn’t dropped out- got like 80 something.

Do you honestly think if 20 percent of the Democrats in Louisiana are voting for someone else in the Democrat primary - that those same Democrats are actually showing up to vote on Election Day? I think not.

I believe Trump will win bc nobody is excited about Joe Biden. That is evidenced only by primary votes. It makes the most sense. There are Trump haters and Trump supporters. There are no ardent Joe Biden supporters. None. The poor dude is a shell of his former self, running with a soulless
Opportunistic fake who’re.

The election is all about turnout, and nobody is showing up for Joe.
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2676 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:48 am to
Got your numbers reversed, it's 19%.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:55 am to
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It was first posted March 2, 2020, on Twitter.
not only does that website look like it was created in 1998, but you say the model "predicted" a Trump victory in March. I wonder if any significant events have taken place since March that might affect the outcome of the election
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 8:55 am
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 8:56 am to
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I believe this bc of boat parades
I feel so much better now
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
7013 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:02 am to
That same "garbage" model has accurately predicted 25 of the last 27 presidential elections. New York or not it would easily be a Trump landslide if the model is mostly correct.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17298 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:02 am to
Mock all you like. Joe Biden had a car parade. 3 cars showed up. It was embarrassing.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:06 am to
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That same "garbage" model has accurately predicted 25 of the last 27 presidential elections. New York or not it would easily be a Trump landslide if the model is mostly correct.



Serious question: Has that Model been around that long? Meaning, did it actually predict those in advance? Or, is that a backwards look - "If we put in the data from the past, we get X result" data mining type thing?


I am not criticizing. I am trying to learn.

I've seen "investment models" that are built from past data (for example). Therefore, they are tremendously accurate at predicting the "past"...they do less well for the future.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:20 am to
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Team Biden just paid him $1.75 to post that post so who is laughing now!

heh heh heh heh

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:22 am to
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I believe this bc of boat parades
I feel so much better now

it is the very legitimate factor, enthusiasm

Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:23 am to
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For the record, the PRIMARY MODEL picks the winner of 25 out of 27 elections since 1912, when presidential primaries were introduced. The misses are 1960, one of the closest presidential elections, and 2000, when the late count in Florida handed Bush the victory; still Al Gore wound up winning the popular vote.


Yeah total garbage
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
7492 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:24 am to
This reminds me of that guy that has correctly predicted nearly every presidential election. Has he weighed in yet?
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25551 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:38 am to
The Nate Bronze model gives Biden 86% chance of winning
Posted by AnyonebutSteelers
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2020
715 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:39 am to
I still have seen no explanation as to how Trump can win a deep-blue state like New York while losing a nearby purple state like New Hampshire. How does that make sense?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:40 am to
I give Nate Bronze a 100% chance of loving BBC....
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5348 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:40 am to
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Has that Model been around that long? Meaning, did it actually predict those in advance?


I think he developed it 30 years ago using reverse engineering - ie, he plugged in existing data and formulations until his model closely matched the results of previous elections. Then he used the same model going forward to predict more recent elections.

Who knows if there is any validity to this. Think of doing this with the Super Bowl. Let's say you went back and found a few stats that highly correlated with a Super Bowl win. For example, teams that had a better division record during the regular season and teams that had a better rushing yards per carry during regular season wins won 85% of Super Bowls. Does that really tell you anything or is it just coincidence? Maybe the division was weak and rushing isn't as important in the modern NFL as it was in the past.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:42 am to
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This reminds me of that guy that has correctly predicted nearly every presidential election. Has he weighed in yet?



You mean Helmut Norpoth? This is his model predicting this
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