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re: Price of Oil - Nuclear Iran?

Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
Member since Jan 2024
284 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:36 am to
Happy to see we are all acknowledging what this war is really about....The Israel situation is just a convenience.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:39 am to
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Was Iran not trying to develop a nuclear weapon? So, if they did and they shut down the straight, like they are doing now, what would you do to solve $350 barrel prices?

We couldn’t possibly figure out any other way to prepare for or defend against that possibility. Is that your contention? Because that’s dumb.

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Dumb like this administration.

And also, they have shut it down now, and what did this war do to stop them from it? It caused them to do it.

Now what? They don’t have nukes, and we still can’t stop them from opening it without waging an even bigger war. They are making us look weak and foolish.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:40 am to
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Was Iran not trying to develop a nuclear weapon?
YES they were. President Trump offered to provide them nuclear material for power plants for FREE and they said "NOPE"....
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30031 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:42 am to
You’d have to be insanely stupid to believe that. Like insanely.

The pentagon is a planning organization who makes plans on plans on plans. They went with this plan for a reason.

To suggest “they didn’t consider a closing of the straight” is so hilarious to me because of how obviously false it is.
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Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4443 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:48 am to
We can do whatever the frick we want because they cant send a nuke up our tailpipe. Options, we have all at our disposal.

Waiting would have been dumb.

Im asking, what would that look like? What would you do to solve $350 bbl oil, nuclear Iran, and ships on fire in the straight? If its so stupid, what are the solutions?
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Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14437 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:49 am to
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Consensus was already that pulling out of the JCPOA = incredibly dumb. Add the assassination of Soleimani in 2020 + this conflict & you’re onto the biggest US diplomacy frickup in a long time.


Idiot. not pulling out of Iran Deal would have still led to a Nuclear Iran and you would complain that Trump is weak for allowing that.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:52 am to
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To suggest “they didn’t consider a closing of the straight” is so hilarious to me because of how obviously false it is.

Where did you get that quote? Who said they didn’t consider it?

I would say the results so far say they did not have a plan for it. But since you think that’s so absurd, what do you think the plan was?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 9:57 am to
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For this experment lets stick with the IF statement being true. How would you solve it?



Sure that *might* be a reason to intervene.

Ideally more along these lines

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Send in the CIA and hope to topple from within?








This what if scenario in no way justifies the current scenario
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 10:01 am to
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This what if scenario in no way justifies the current scenario


Right, and the fact that Iran did close it and we weren’t able to prevent that shows that even if preemptive war was the answer, we either f’d up in planning to prevent the closing or we didn’t plan for it.

Or Trump and company were just happy to let them close it for a little while? To justify a broader war? That’s another possibility.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:13 am to
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You’d have to be insanely stupid to believe that. Like insanely.
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Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:14 am to
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Idiot. not pulling out of Iran Deal would have still led to a Nuclear Iran

Stood to block paths to weapons dev for 15 years, at which point the agreement could have been extended.

How on earth do you justify undermining our own diplomatic achievement breaking ground with Iran for the first time in +30 yrs, replacing it with nothing, and immediately escalating?

It was a horrible miscalculation and step backward on multiple fronts.

I figure you’ll be inclined to publicly defend your vote, or make some partisan argument here but off the record… just think about that for a second.
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Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11355 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:20 am to
So, a CNN story with anonymous sources that states something unbelievable, like the administration didn't think about the most vital straight in the world, you take to heart.

But anything the administration says, you immediately discard.

I hope one day you guys realize how stupid you sound to normal people.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:39 am to
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So, a CNN story with anonymous sources that states something unbelievable, like the administration didn't think about the most vital straight in the world, you take to heart. But anything the administration says, you immediately discard. I hope one day you guys realize how stupid you sound to normal people.


Who said they didn’t think about it?

You said all that bullshite based on your lack of reading comprehension, and then called me stupid.

How about you look at the totality of what’s happening and draw your own conclusions about how the administration planned to prevent Iran from closing the strait.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42283 posts
Posted on 3/13/26 at 11:59 am to
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Earnest_P


You must not have listened to Hegseth’s updates this morning.

CNN is fake news.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 2:36 pm to
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So, a CNN story with anonymous sources that states something unbelievable, like the administration didn't think about the most vital straight in the world, you take to heart. But anything the administration says, you immediately discard. I hope one day you guys realize how stupid you sound to normal people.


Anybody still want to claim the administration had a plan for Iran closing the strait?

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