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President Trump wants to change Senate majority for bills from 60 to 51
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:53 am to silverdude
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If Republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the Senate, they must immediately go to a 51 vote majority, not senseless 60...
...Even though parts of healthcare could pass at 51, some really good things need 60. So many great future bills & budgets need 60 votes...
Quickest way to single payer down the line would be to do this. Dems will never get 60 Senate seats to pass it but with this all it will take is a liberal trump and a 51 seat majority
This post was edited on 7/28/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:54 am to silverdude
Republicans seem not to have learned from the mistakes Democrats made over the last eight years.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:55 am to silverdude
From the "things that will come back to bite your arse" file.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:56 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Quickest way to single payer down the line would be to do this
I'm fine with this.
The filibuster is and always has been stupid.
Just because it might cost my side doesn't mean I think it's OK to keep it.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:56 am to silverdude
what a terrible idea
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:56 am to ShortyRob
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The filibuster is and always has been stupid.
So you're a Tyranny of the majority guy. Got it.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:57 am to silverdude
Kind of odd timing for this rant. He only needed 51 last night.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:58 am to silverdude
if or when dems control the White House, senate and house you can bet your arse the rules will be changed. McConnell is being paid to block trump agenda by the donor class
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:58 am to Draconian Sanctions
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So you're a Tyranny of the majority guy. Got it.
That's how democracy works, right?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 9:59 am to AUstar
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That's how democracy works, right?
yeah, which is why the founders didn't set up this country as a democracy
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:02 am to silverdude
He can shite in one hand and want in the other.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:03 am to Draconian Sanctions
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yeah, which is why the founders didn't set up this country as a democracy
The Founders didn't setup the 60 vote threshold either. Not sure what your point is
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:04 am to silverdude
Yeah this is a terrible idea
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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So you're a Tyranny of the majority guy. Got it.
Founders put in a lot of checks against the Tyranny of the majority...the filibuster was not one of them.
Return to the pre-1974 filibuster. Easy solution. Let's not act like the filibuster in it's current form is some venerable institution that we can't live without.
I would be ok with eliminating it on everything but Supreme Court nominations. That doesn't have the check of going through the house and is kinda a big deal.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
Would have really paid off last night! 
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:13 am to silverdude
quote:
If Republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the Senate, they must immediately go to a 51 vote majority, not senseless 60...
...Even though parts of healthcare could pass at 51, some really good things need 60. So many great future bills & budgets need 60 votes....
that would be amazing for the Democrats whenever they finally take over the Senate again
You looking forward to this? Thinking about the future? Cool yes?
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
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So you're a Tyranny of the majority guy. Got it.
Oh please drama queen.
Our nation wasn't built assuming a filibuster and the Senate, by definition, is a bulwark against the "tyranny of the majority". Ya know. 2 from each state regardless of population.
Sheesh. I said that it's a dumb idea and I'm perfectly fine with it dying even if it costs ME........ya know. So, I'm not just all about myself. I realize that this is a strange concept for a lefty.......but it really can exist.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:They also didn't put in the filibuster.
yeah, which is why the founders didn't set up this country as a democracy
Just sayin
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:15 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Is the House of Representatives a tyranny?
So you're a Tyranny of the majority guy. Got it.
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