re: President Trump - one of 3 greatest presidents of all time - who are your choices?

I still agree with that

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Lincoln did think that America would be better off if the freed slaves were sent elsewhere, and who could argue with that?

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If we could have only been so frickin lucky

1. Washington
2. Reagan
3. T. Roosevelt/Trump tied

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1. John F Kennedy
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Donald Trump

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1 term
2 terms
2 terms - but faced monumental hurdles from state lawfare and media lies.

No way does JFK get anywhere near a Democratic party nomination in 2024. He'd be considered a white nationalist and a nazi. As his dad was actually in full support of Hitler before the US entered the war. A tiny detail most history books leave out.

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Ummm.. huh? There is no list that has the word "Worst" in it that Teddy Roosevelt belongs on.

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Why?

What’s your argument for him being a good president?

Do you like

Him being the man in 1906 who urged progressives to support an income tax after it was struck down by the Supreme Court?

Or his views on the eradication of Indians and his love for eugenics?

“don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth,"

The NAZIS were big fans of his Indian and eugenics positions.

“I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding," as he's quoted by New Statesman. " ... Criminals should be sterilized and feeble-minded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them." He even went so far as to create the U.S. government's "Heredity Commission," an attempt to preserve America's genetic heritage.

Or his view in making the executive branch more powerful?

“I believe in power…I did greatly broaden the use of executive power…The biggest matters I managed without consultation with anyone, for when a matter is of capital importance, it is well to have it handled by one man only …I don’t think that any harm comes from the concentration of power in one man’s hands.”


He was an awful tyrant. And thankfully the American people saw through it and didn’t elect him again. But being the horrible person he was, he ran as a third party candidate and made sure that the worst president of all time won.

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all of it is rooted in fumbled reconstruction

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Well, Lincoln wasn’t around for much of that, and I could argue that, although progress was slow, American blacks were making social progress until the Great Society created incentives for single parenthood and going on the dole. JD Vance’s book, Hillbilly Elegy, is an exegesis of how these operated on the white working class.

Lol
Well hard to argue with that sentiment.

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And there’s that whole Trail of Tears thing.

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He was right about that. He tried before to get the tribes to voluntarily move and they didn’t. You do realize many of them were allies of his previously. The nation needed the land for room to grow, and the tribes were in the way. Thus for centuries had been the fate of the conquered, to be at the mercy of the victorious.

It was hard, it was cruel. You couldn’t exactly put them on buses back then. No rail system, wagons and just flat out walking was it. The government couldn’t just print up money in those days either, so resources were going to be limited at best.

And before you say “if your people died by the thousands doing it you wouldn’t say that” mine did. Both grandmothers, one grandfather Cherokee. Family was lost on the trail.

Yes the decision was a byproduct of Jackson’s decision they had to go. But what is lost in the discussion was it was carried out by Van Buren, the next president. Whose name I never see attached to it.