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re: President Trump - one of 3 greatest presidents of all time - who are your choices?

Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4215 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:56 am to
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Abe Lincoln


The man was a tyrant. And he wasn’t an abolitionist by any stretch. Abolitionists of the era were not fond of Lincoln. He defended slave holders in courts. He said he would keep slavery if it meant the south not seceding. He wanted to send all slaves to Haiti. He suspended constitutional rights for all Americans, not just people living in the confederacy. He jailed reporters. He allowed Seward to completely disregard the constitution and act like a North Korean dictator. His emancipation proclamation didn’t free one slave and wasn’t applied to territory held by Union soldiers. The British papers mocked it because it was so clearly an attempt to start a slave revolt. The British mocked it and they were a nation that abolished slavery years before the U.S. He was Henry Clay’s puppet brainchild. Slavery was going to go away regardless of Lincoln. It was an unholy dying institution. He didn’t need to oversee a war where more than 600,000 people lost their lives. That percentage of the population would be roughly 6,000,0000 million dead today. He starved southern cities and the Union army raped and pillaged while burning cities to the ground and made no determination whether it was a military target or not.
Posted by Heirofslytherin88
Member since Dec 2024
107 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:03 pm to
The president has been a puppet for the deep state for at least the last 70 years they don’t call the shots on nearly anything. So I’m not even sure what qualifies as a good president
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:31 pm to
1. Washington
2. Teddy
3. DJT
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37365 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:35 pm to
Washington was a federalist.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:44 pm to
Geo. Washington
Andrew Jackson
Donald Trump
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10203 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:48 pm to
1) Washington
2) Reagan
3) Trump

Madison could be included as well. He hated being president and being stuck in DC so much that he went home more than a month before his term ended. He is also the only sitting president who personally led troops into battle. We need more people in government with that mindset.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13559 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:54 pm to
Washington
Lincoln
FDR
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55610 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

The man was a tyrant. And he wasn’t an abolitionist by any stretch. Abolitionists of the era were not fond of Lincoln. He defended slave holders in courts. He said he would keep slavery if it meant the south not seceding. He wanted to send all slaves to Haiti. He suspended constitutional rights for all Americans, not just people living in the confederacy.

He was a practicing lawyer. Of course he took cases for unsavory people. That is the nature of that business.

Lincoln did think that America would be better off if the freed slaves were sent elsewhere, and who could argue with that?

In times of war it's very common to suspend constitutional rights. This was a war entirely on US soil!

Lincoln absolutely was an abolitionist. He thought slavery was an unholy institution. His willingness to leave slavery in place to save the Union just makes him the same as 95% of his countrymen.

But when Lincoln got the chance he acted emphatically and nobly.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
35576 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:03 pm to
Jefferson Davis was my favorite President.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:09 pm to
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President Trump - one of 3 greatest presidents of all time


Let's look at his campaign promises.

1. Build a wall, Mexico pays for it.
2. Drain the swamp.
3. Repeal and Replace ACA.
4. Hire the best people.

1. Fail
2. Fail
3. Fail
3. Fail

Hey, but we got Trump Bucks!
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
563 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:22 pm to
I do think it’s funny how much hate Lincoln gets on here.
Maybe he wasn’t the best but he was pretty good. And he will get major credit for keeping the country together, right or wrong.
The hate on Teddy Roosevelt is also funny. For as many hunters and outdoorsmen on here, you’d think he’d be revered.
Good chance many of the national parks, national forests, and NWR’s we have and enjoy get developed or sold off. Be thankful for Teddy, at least in that view.
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10723 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:33 pm to
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George Washington that’s it it was all downhill from there

This is God's honest truth.

We got it so dang right the first time.
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
Member since Aug 2016
2783 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:34 pm to
Jefferson Davis gotta be up there
Posted by Heirofslytherin88
Member since Dec 2024
107 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:39 pm to
Someone who enacts gun control by executive order isn’t in my top 40
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:41 pm to
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I do think it’s funny how much hate Lincoln gets on here.


Tyranny aside he essentially killed federalism. How's that working out?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90799 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:43 pm to
Heirofslytherin88
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:47 pm to
Andrew Jackson
Teddy Roosevelt
Posted by LSUbub12
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
563 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:48 pm to
I think most can realize federalism was going to die out and the fed was going to have more power than the states as the country grew bigger in size and population plus dealing with other countries. The issue is the pendulum has kept swinging to more power for the feds and states do need more say so. But I think giving Lincoln all the hate for it bc of a literal civil war is not fair.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14181 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:55 pm to
1. Washington

2. Trump is today’s Washington.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61469 posts
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Andrew Jackson


Why?
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