re: Pregant and not planning an abortion? The anti-womenists are after you, too.

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You would know better than I would so I won't be offended if you correct me, but this sounds like malpractice. How hard is it to administer a pregnancy test before administering Depo? That sounds like it could be extremely dangerous for the patient.

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Yea thats a big no-no. But this story just confuses me. If the pt was on depo and, apparently, the doctor didn't do a pregnancy test or know she was pregnant, what medical records did they look at that told them the miscarriage had to be b/w 11-15 wks? Was it a UPS from another facility? Maybe a first trimester dating U/S, but those records should be easy to find and pts know when they have had U/S showing a damn baby in their uterus. I guess the pt's self reported LMP is also possible, but that would open up a whole other can of worms (she had to have known she was already pregnant or at least a very high chance she was pregnant). This just sounds like a total cluster with inconsistencies throughout.

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sometimes funded by the state.

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lie

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Arnold Schwarzenegger debunked this in 1994, FWIW.

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So did Louis Gossett Jr in 1985! "Enemy Mine". Or does this not count since he was a Drac(lizard-like human)? Lou gave birth to Baby Drac who learned to play football pretty well. I saw that movie around 1988-89 and its still burnt into my memory. I was about 9 years old

wait, government is stupid? I'll bet if we give them more money and more power, they'll knock it off.

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last time i check men are physically incapable of even becoming pregnant.

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That is the biggest problem with the abortion debate.

There are disingenuous people on both sides.

there are pro-lifers who probably would feel different if men could get pregnant, and there are pro-choices who don't care if it is a human life they wan tot be able to do whatever they want.

For the record I am pro-life, and I think the misapplication of law does not mean it is a bad law.

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In another case, a woman who had been in labor at home was picked up by a sheriff, strapped down in the back of an ambulance, taken to a hospital, and forced to have a cesarean she did not want. When this mother later protested what had happened, a court concluded that the woman’s personal constitutional rights “clearly did not outweigh the interests of the State of Florida in preserving the life of the unborn child.”

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Just wondering how you feel about this one? What if the child had died because the mother refused a cesarean?

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last time i check men are physically incapable of even becoming pregnant.

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Considering the size of your baby bump, I'm not sure.

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Yea, I think I draw the line at forcing anybody to undergo a surgical operation against their will. What if the mother had died because of the c-sx she never wanted?

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But should it be her choice if it is 9 month baby that needs a c-section?
I think i remember you are in medical school. How do you feel about that.

And I am honestly asking your opinion.

I think most people would be willing to admit that at the end of the 9 months there is really no difference between an unborn and a born child, and i think that difference, if any, diminishes if the woman is in labor.

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But should it be her choice if it is 9 month baby that needs a c-section?

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Absolutely. I can't really think of any situation where someone, with capacity, should be forced to undergo a surgical procedure against his/her will. I mean, think about what you are advocating. Forcibly sedating someone. Strapping them to an operating table. Taking away their consciousness by putting them under general anesthesia, or at the very least putting a needle around their spinal cord to numb them up. Then you slice down and expose their uterus, causing them to lose around 1L of blood in the process. You then make a uterine incision that, depending on the type, could take away their ability to ever have another spontaneous vaginal delivery and forcing them into repeat c-sections for every child after that point. Add this to the increased infection risk and other causes of morbidity associated with c-sections compared with vaginal deliveries, and you would have hard time convincing me we should do this against someone's will.

I would also like to note that their is a significant difference b/w abortion (actively doing something to end a potential life) and NOT performing a c-section that could possibly save a potential life. I use "potential here" as to avoid any "oh is it a life or not" BS argument. Thats not the point of this.

Here, have a downvote for your continued foolishness