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re: Post your reaction to Massie losing
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:42 am to Lg
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:42 am to Lg
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Why doesn't this work?
Well I could have used more precise language. It doesn't work within the paradigm assuming the constituents did not change.
If the constituents changed, then yes there could be a scenario where his maintaining his policies no longer represented that changed population.
I realize now that assumption probably should have been written and included because it involves references to prior posts in the discussion tree.
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:43 am to Lg
quote:Even weirder is you don’t know the difference between a procedural vote and voting for the bill. Nor do you appear to know the bill had more than enough votes for a discharge petition, which would have brought it to the floor if everyone on the committee voted against it.
So strange that he would vote FOR IT to pass out of committee though. Weird.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
This is getting boring.
You're contention is that tens of thousands of voters changed and not Massie.
Massie did things his voters didn't like. Ergo, he is no longer employed by his constituents.
Now if you want to pretend some mass psychosis took over and 180'd his constituents, then you are welcome to wallow in denial.
But it's kind of hard to argue that his voters changed so much, that rather than vote for Massie, they voted for another Republican. So they didn't change so much as to go complete 180 and vote Democrat. They changed just enough to not vote massie but vote Gallrein. All of this happened, while Massie did nothing wrong...that is your contention?
You're contention is that tens of thousands of voters changed and not Massie.
Massie did things his voters didn't like. Ergo, he is no longer employed by his constituents.
Now if you want to pretend some mass psychosis took over and 180'd his constituents, then you are welcome to wallow in denial.
But it's kind of hard to argue that his voters changed so much, that rather than vote for Massie, they voted for another Republican. So they didn't change so much as to go complete 180 and vote Democrat. They changed just enough to not vote massie but vote Gallrein. All of this happened, while Massie did nothing wrong...that is your contention?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:45 am to Mo Jeaux
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His voting record is publicly available. That’s how we know that you’re lying.
Since the 2024 election, among the House GOP, Massie ranked No.2 in voting with Democrats.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:46 am to BugAC
quote:Lindsey Graham has done this multiples more often than Massie
He voted with the Democrats many times, and several times was the sole Republican voting against bills Trump supported at a time that Democrats are stopping at nothing, not even assassination, to stop Trump.
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One of the symptoms of TDS is not being able to spot it
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:47 am to Taxing Authority
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Lindsey Graham has done this multiples more often than Massie
When? When has Graham this Trump term been the sole republican voting with the Democrats?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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MAGA is now the party of...Kevin McCarthy
TDSFP showing off his intellectual dishonesty again. Massie was fiercely loyal to McCarthy, supported McCarthy for Speaker, and was an outspoken critic of Republicans that ousted McCarthy.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:50 am to jrodLSUke
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Since the 2024 election, among the House GOP, Massie ranked No.2 in voting with Democrats.
What were those votes on? Mostly spending measures I bet, with respect to which Massie has always voted consistently.
Massie has a 99 rating by Freedom Index, and a lifetime score of 83% from fracking Heritage Action (the average Republican score is 89%). Again, I don’t care whether you or anyone else wanted him to go, but the fact that so many of you just swallow the kool-aid and repeat bullshite without using any critical thinking skills is pathetic.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:52 am to BugAC
quote:Alone? No, he’s often joined by other worthless senators. Not sure why that makes is OK?
When? When has Graham this Trump term been the sole republican voting with the Democrats?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:52 am to BugAC
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You're contention is that tens of thousands of voters changed and not Massie.
I've requested examples of these policy changes in the past 1.5 years multiple times.
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Now if you want to pretend some mass psychosis took over and 180'd his constituents
Have you missed the Massie Derangement Syndrome era on here?
Why do you think voters in a random district in Kentucky wouldn't reflect the same mass formation psychosis that we were seeing on this very message board? Do you really think that the populations are so different that we wouldn't see the same behavior in that district?
This is the part that is very interesting to me because we have a perfect example of this exact phenomena going on here right now and many of y'all are fighting the potential that the exact same set of behaviors could be going on in his district.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:55 am to jrodLSUke
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TDSFP showing off his intellectual dishonesty again.
I'm not shocked that you don't understand the comment
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Massie was fiercely loyal to McCarthy, supported McCarthy for Speaker, and was an outspoken critic of Republicans that ousted McCarthy.
Proving my point above. None of this has any relevance to the point I made above that you quoted, which was about legislative purity versus legislative pragmatism. Kevin McCarthy was ousted because he tried to promote pragmatism and MAGA demanded purity. Now they've done a 180 and are criticizing Massie for having purity and not being pragmatic like Kevin McCarthy was.
Just 180 after 180. Exactly the type of behavior you expect from people who have personal policy positions and just take talking points and positions that they are told to have by others
ETA: this is not the only policy that they keep doing 180s on. Neoconservative military policy, military interventionism, big spending, globalist policies, etc. All have this flip-flop paradigm constantly
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:55 am to jrodLSUke
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Massie was fiercely loyal to McCarthy, supported McCarthy for Speaker
Since I’m reposing the pic, I’ll repost the obvious truth:
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Truth is the greatest casualty in this election
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Again
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:02 am to The Boat
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:08 am to BugAC
You say this without being able to post any policy changes since November 2024, after being asked multiple times.
It's almost as if, this whole "he's changed" is in perception only.
And if that can work on you, why wouldn't it work on a voter in Kentucky?
It's almost as if, this whole "he's changed" is in perception only.
And if that can work on you, why wouldn't it work on a voter in Kentucky?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:08 am to FATBOY TIGER
Have you ever won a popularity contest though?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:12 am to 4cubbies
In high school. Won a singing contest in Gladewater Texas.
Does that count?
Does that count?
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:14 am to FATBOY TIGER
Impressive. I’ll allow it.
Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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You say this without being able to post any policy changes since November 2024, after being asked multiple times.
I told you why the people voted against him. Other people have. He went against Trump. That is the policy. His fiscal conservatism may not have changed, but that isn't the only think voters look at. It's like when Rand Paul ran against Trump in 2016 primary. And he was jumping up and down behind Trump saying, "but that's not conservative, but that's not conservative". Conservative doesn't mean shite if you lose all the fricking time. Being conservative does you no good if it means Democrats win the election.
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It's almost as if, this whole "he's changed" is in perception only.
Again, you can't accept that Massie lost his fricking mind, which he did. With his obsessive Epstein bullshite. And his "i'm going to post the names" to only post what, 8 names, 4 of which were completely innocent.
Massie voting with Democrats is why he lost. The people didn't fricking change. They didn't decide to do a 180 and vote Demcrat. They voted for the guy that would vote with Trump. They want the save act passed. They want Trump initiatives passed. They don't want to lose, like Massie did.
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And if that can work on you, why wouldn't it work on a voter in Kentucky?
Again, it's the voters that all changed, but not so much to not vote for another Republican. Massie had nothing to do with why he lost, it was those tens of thousands of voters that all collectively changed their minds. You see how stupid that sounds. Of course you don't.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 10:16 am
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