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re: Pope tells kids in Singapore all religions lead to God
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:50 pm to Night Vision
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:50 pm to Night Vision
I’m hoping that perhaps something was lost in the translation???
Posted on 9/13/24 at 9:51 pm to Night Vision
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This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:00 pm to Night Vision
ORTHODOXY…never changed nor changes.
Since 33 A.D.
Since 33 A.D.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:00 pm to DrPhillipSeymourbush
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Better question still is are Catholics really Christians
We are OG Christians bro...
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:18 pm to FreddieMac
quote:So was Judas.
We are OG Christians bro...
Posted on 9/13/24 at 10:40 pm to FooManChoo
quote:nah he was a Jewish revolutionary
So was Judas.
Only the disciples and the people who saw Christ resurrected understood that he was the Messiah as the savior it took that to finally convince them and it took convincing
Judas would have never seen him as that
Is he had already hung himself
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:35 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Judas was a nominal disciple of Christ and stuck with Him for 3 years until He betrayed Him.
nah he was a Jewish revolutionary
Only the disciples and the people who saw Christ resurrected understood that he was the Messiah as the savior it took that to finally convince them and it took convincing
Judas would have never seen him as that
Is he had already hung himself
My point was that there will come a day when many will say “Lord, Lord” and will be cast into Hell because they claimed the name of Christ for themselves and yet were not trusting in Him for their salvation. Many nominal Christians even today will be in Hell with Judas and many “OG Christians” who confessed Christ with their lips but their hearts were far from Him.
Salvation comes by faith alone in Christ’s meritorious work alone.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:17 am to MemphisGuy
And the Pope would like to lead all the kiddies into his private magical play room.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:26 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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The pope is sounding a little “false teachery”, almost like he’s the leader of a religion designed to exploit its adherents and to concentrate power and wealth, not lead them to eternal life by faith alone in Christ Jesus. Perhaps those reformers were on to something.
And perhaps the current Pope is not speaking for the vast majority of Roman Catholics.
When he is not busy waffling on a millennia of Catholic and Christian teaching, he’s busy destroying it.
The Anglicans/Episcopalians and the Methodists have both had schisms recently. No church is immune to differences driving wedges, especially in today's world of accepted relativism and nihilism. Let’s not dust our feet off on each other’s Christian doormats.
There is a battle between good and evil occurring in the Christian faith and the world at large. Those on the side of good need to steel ourselves with the teachings that draw us together, and not those that tear us apart, and continue to be mindful of false teachings coming from whatever corner of the several Christian denominations.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:28 am to Night Vision
The pope should have told that to Jesus. Then he wouldn’t have had to die and provide the way for salvation!
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:15 am to Night Vision
The Catholic Church is perfectly set up in a way to usher in a one-world religion devoted to the Antichrist.
This guy proves that to us regularly.
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Pope
This guy proves that to us regularly.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 1:15 am
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:19 am to Night Vision
Despite the poor translation, there is (surprisingly) absolutely nothing wrong with what Pope Francis said here. The Catholic Church has taught for two thousand years that every religion has some element of truth to it as God has written his law into the hearts of every single human being who has ever existed. Only Christianity, however, contains the fullness of truth - something that he has neither said or implied about other religions.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church even talks about this. It recognizes that other religions are in search of God, who is unknown to them for the moment but still near. It also talks about how other religions have truth and goodness within them as a preparation for the Gospel.
But of course Protestants and poorly catechized Christians will take this and lose their ever loving minds over it.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church even talks about this. It recognizes that other religions are in search of God, who is unknown to them for the moment but still near. It also talks about how other religions have truth and goodness within them as a preparation for the Gospel.
But of course Protestants and poorly catechized Christians will take this and lose their ever loving minds over it.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 6:25 am
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:40 am to RollTide1987
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But of course Protestants and poorly catechized Christians will take this and lose their ever loving minds over it.
Not losing my mind at all over what the Pope said or what you wrote. I’ll choose what’s written in the Bible every time over any Pope or your words if not in alignment Biblically.
Everything that is happening today has foretold in Revelation, the Pope’s behavior is an inspiration for me to better my relationship with Christ as the signs of end times are growing.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:46 am to FooManChoo
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So was Judas
Good try but Judas was Jewish, not Christian.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:47 am to RollTide1987
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church even talks about this. It recognizes that other religions are in search of God, who is unknown to them for the moment but still near. It also talks about how other religions have truth and goodness within them as a preparation for the Gospel.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is not the inspired word of God and it isn't salvific. IF the Pope intended to convey what you stated, he did a poor job of it.
He should try harder since he's a recognized religious leader of millions.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 7:10 am to lake chuck fan
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The Catechism of the Catholic Church is not the inspired word of God and it isn't salvific.
It is not, however, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is a summary of the Church's doctrines and teachings that draws from many sources (Scripture, the Church Fathers, the lives of the saints, etc.). At the end of the day, it's a reference guide for all those who are curious about what the Catholic Church believes and why. And in Paragraph 843 of the Catechism, it says the following:
The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. Thus, the Church considers all goodness and truth found in these religions as "a preparation for the Gospel and given by him who enlightens all men that they may at length have life."
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IF the Pope intended to convey what you stated, he did a poor job of it.
I believe that is what he intended and, like so many other instances, he did indeed do a piss poor job of stating it. It's one of the reasons why I get so frustrated with him because - especially after John Paul II and Benedict XVI - he ushers in a lot of confusion.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 7:14 am to RollTide1987
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I believe that is what he intended and, like so many other instances, he did indeed do a piss poor job of stating it. It's one of the reasons why I get so frustrated with him because - especially after John Paul II and Benedict XVI - he ushers in a lot of confusion.
Well I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But, the way it was stated seems to directly contradict catholic dogma as we were taught. Sure, other religions are trying to find their own path to God, but for a catholic the only path to god is through his son Jesus Christ.
Posted on 9/14/24 at 7:59 am to N.O. via West-Cal
Does he wear a funny hat?
Does he crap in the woods?
Does he crap in the woods?
Posted on 9/14/24 at 8:05 am to Night Vision
Question
Did people get to heaven before Catholicism?
If so, how?
Did people get to heaven before Catholicism?
If so, how?
Posted on 9/14/24 at 8:24 am to Night Vision
All Religions, and all created things (Evil at the fore) do indeed lead back to God. the Source. But all Religions do not lead to the perceptive state of Love, I.e., "Heaven".
The Eastern Religions have long realized that the greatest and final Spiritual/Universal Law enemy/barrier to the personal state of Universal Love, is the personal Ego. "Jesus said that "he that seeks to save their self, shall lose it...". And the Easterns aptly implemented the idea of a 'Guru' that the heavenly aspirant submits themselves to, which takes the egoic accomplishment out of the spiritual equation. IMO, this is solid, but only up to a point, as Humanity cannot merely assume the ultimate authority to command the 'gate' to heaven, over that of God. "No man cometh to the Father, but by me", was Jesus definitive statement as THE "only begotten Son of God", with power to mitigate human imperfection and Karma.
Of course this very idea of Jesus being 1/3 of the Godhead, will be seen as 'divisive' as other competing Religions will vie for what is ultimately, Egoic power. Satan's desire for 'equality' with God, being foremost.
The Pope may try to walk the fence for the said of being a "peacemaker", but at some point he has to state whether he believes that which St. Peter did when Jesus asked him "who do you believe that I am". Peter's answer and belief is the very essence of the RCC since day one. The Pope - good intentions nws - cannot walk the fence on this. Neither can Humanity if they hope to avoid calamity of their own making. Can't cut it without Jesus. IMO. "We have beheld the enemy, and it is us".
The Eastern Religions have long realized that the greatest and final Spiritual/Universal Law enemy/barrier to the personal state of Universal Love, is the personal Ego. "Jesus said that "he that seeks to save their self, shall lose it...". And the Easterns aptly implemented the idea of a 'Guru' that the heavenly aspirant submits themselves to, which takes the egoic accomplishment out of the spiritual equation. IMO, this is solid, but only up to a point, as Humanity cannot merely assume the ultimate authority to command the 'gate' to heaven, over that of God. "No man cometh to the Father, but by me", was Jesus definitive statement as THE "only begotten Son of God", with power to mitigate human imperfection and Karma.
Of course this very idea of Jesus being 1/3 of the Godhead, will be seen as 'divisive' as other competing Religions will vie for what is ultimately, Egoic power. Satan's desire for 'equality' with God, being foremost.
The Pope may try to walk the fence for the said of being a "peacemaker", but at some point he has to state whether he believes that which St. Peter did when Jesus asked him "who do you believe that I am". Peter's answer and belief is the very essence of the RCC since day one. The Pope - good intentions nws - cannot walk the fence on this. Neither can Humanity if they hope to avoid calamity of their own making. Can't cut it without Jesus. IMO. "We have beheld the enemy, and it is us".
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