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re: Pope Francis permits Priests to bless same sex couples in major Vatican doctrine change
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:51 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:51 pm to 4cubbies
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Point to the Bible verse that says Catholics worship plaster
I’m not saying Catholics worship plaster. I’m saying they kneel in front of statues to pray and it’s both unnecessary and useless
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:51 pm to Revelator
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We are never instructed to come boldly before God though statues or saints
Well I guess you know better than God.
I have experienced many miracles due to the intercession of Our Lady. One is ongoing and is provable. Forgive me for not abandoning my beliefs because you accused me of worshiping plaster.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:56 pm to 4cubbies
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Well I guess you know better than God.
It’s God himself who instructs me
through his word how to approach him in prayer
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I have experienced many miracles due to the intercession of Our Lady.
Experiences can be created by emotions and atmosphere. The Bible says Satan himself can appear as an Angel of light.
It also says he’s capable of performing signs and wonders and we are to test every spirit to see if they are from God.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:02 am to 4cubbies
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Pope Francis isn't blessing homosexuality. He's blessing homosexuals.
Just to be clear...according to Scripture there is no sin more abominable in God's eyes than homosexuality.
"Blessing" homosexuals who refuse to repent and willfully continue in their sin? One needs no further examples to see the utter farce and sacrilege that is the doctrine of papal infallibility.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 12:03 am
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:09 am to Revelator
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None of your sarcasm explains the need for statues and kneeling in front of them to pray
The Jews constructed the ark and made it out of gold. It had two golden angels on top of it.
OMG. They constructed an idol.
They must be pagans.
You can worship god in your metal shed. I prefer a giant cathedral with stained glass windows filled with statues of Mary and Joseph and the saints . And it was all paid for with indulgences.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:14 am to Mr. Misanthrope
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Having said that, unless I’m mistaken, Roman Catholic Doctrine is that the physical sexual expression of love can only take place between a man and a woman, joined together by the Sacrament of Marriage, and, that the physical expression of marital love is fully open, without hinderance, to the hope and possibility of children.
All other sexual acts, homosexual, heterosexual, or autoerotic are disordered and sinful. It’s not a witch hunt or persecution of homosexuals. Under the Roman Catholic doctrine, if my understanding is accurate, there’s plenty of sin to go around and it swamps plenty of other boats besides homosexual ones.
For a non-Catholic you understand the doctrine better than a lot of catechism teachers.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:39 am to 4cubbies
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have experienced many miracles due to the intercession of Our Lady.
As have I.
God is Great.
He has done wonderful things for me.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:59 am to Guntoter1
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You can worship god in your metal shed. I prefer a giant cathedral with stained glass windows filled with statues of Mary and Joseph and the saints . And it was all paid for with indulgences.
Matthew 23:25
25 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean.
27 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness.
28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:29 am to Revelator
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Matthew 23:25 25 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and the plate, that the outside also may be clean. 27 ¶ “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 So you also outwardly appear righteous to others, but within you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness
I agree. Pope Francis is horrible.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:43 am to Revelator
Seriously.
What do you think of Catholics ?
That we are pagan idol worshipers?
This is what Catholics believe:
“We believe in god the father almighty. Creator of heaven and earth and in Jesus Christ his son.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven. Was born of the Virgin Mary. Suffered under Pontus pilot. Was crucified died and was buried. On the third day he rose from the dead. Ascended into heaven. He is seated at the right hand of the father and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the lord the giver of life. Who comes from the father and the son. With the father and the son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic church. We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.
What do you think of Catholics ?
That we are pagan idol worshipers?
This is what Catholics believe:
“We believe in god the father almighty. Creator of heaven and earth and in Jesus Christ his son.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven. Was born of the Virgin Mary. Suffered under Pontus pilot. Was crucified died and was buried. On the third day he rose from the dead. Ascended into heaven. He is seated at the right hand of the father and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the lord the giver of life. Who comes from the father and the son. With the father and the son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic church. We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:10 am to Guntoter1
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Seriously. What do you think of Catholics ? That we are pagan idol worshipers?
I think many genuinely love God, but they are being sorely misguided by their leaders to take part in things that are clearly unscriptural.
I think many are superstitions and the vast majority don’t even understand their churches doctrines and beliefs.
Many follow the church blindly because of tradition or because their families were always Catholic.
The church is big on pomp and circumstance, loves rituals and ornate things, and loves to venerate people above their place.
I think Mary worship permeates the church, and many Catholics have a greater adoration for Mary and the Church organization than Jesus and his word.
I think they look down on people who put their faith in God’s word and who believe they can be saved and faithful outside the RCC. I think they discourage their laity from reading and studying the Bible, and instead, would prefer them to remain in ignorant bliss about God’s word and solely dependent on priests for all spiritual guidance.
That’s just a few things off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:11 am
Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:26 am to Revelator
I agree that people in all faith communities have members and priests (pastors) who are as you describe.
Jesus warned about wolves who would come and scatter the flock.
The wolves are very numerous in the CC today.
We should all follow Christ to the best of our ability. And I believe you are doing that as am I.
Stay close to Christ , ask for guidance and protection and he will provide it.
Jesus warned about wolves who would come and scatter the flock.
The wolves are very numerous in the CC today.
We should all follow Christ to the best of our ability. And I believe you are doing that as am I.
Stay close to Christ , ask for guidance and protection and he will provide it.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:12 am to BamaGradinTn
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Just to be clear...according to Scripture there is no sin more abominable in God's eyes than homosexuality.
That is most certainly not true as Scripture quite clearly states that the only unforgivable sin is sinning against the Holy Spirit.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 5:44 am to Revelator
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It’s not complicated
but wait they made carved images in the old testament? There are multiple times they made images in the Old Testament. Such as the ark of the covenant, the bronze serpent, etc.
The passage doesn't forbid from making carved images, instead it says don't worship them. Like they did with the golden calf.
Do you have an images of family members, friends, even pets? Do you worship those images? No obviously you don't. So what is wrong with an image of Jesus, which reminds us of his love for us.
Statues and other holy images, remind us of the good work of God and how his grace can make us saints. We don't worship the stone it is made of, neither do we worship the person they represent. Someone kneeling before a statue and praying isn't worshiping they are asking for the intercession of that saint. But I know you have problems with that too.
Also of course this thread derailed into another Catholics are wrong on XYZ.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:21 am to Guntoter1
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And as to Mary. The Ark contained the Ten Commandments Aaron’s staff and the presence of god. Mary is the new ark that contained God
Did anyone pray to the ark in the Old Testament?
We all agree she is blessed and highly favored. We just don’t pray to her because God is the only one we need to pray to. When Jesus said he was leaving behind a Helper for us, he didn’t mean Mary. We have direct access to the throne thanks to His sacrifice on the cross.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:26 am to 4cubbies
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How do you read “Worship the one true God with all your heart, all your mind, and all your soul” to not denounce idolatry?
When it's combined with actual acts of idolatry.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:27 am to RebelExpress38
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Did anyone pray to the ark in the Old Testament?
Did anyone pray to or follow Jesus in the OT?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:28 am to RebelExpress38
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Did anyone pray to the ark in the Old Testament?
why would someone pray to an object?
Mary is different, she is in Heaven with God praying for us before her son and our father.
We don't pray to statues, images, etc. we are reminded of the persons holiness which inspires us to grow in holiness too, and we are also reminded to ask for their intersession.
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We all agree she is blessed and highly favored. We just don’t pray to her because God is the only one we need to pray to. When Jesus said he was leaving behind a Helper for us, he didn’t mean Mary. We have direct access to the throne thanks to His sacrifice on the cross.
why not ask for prayers from the mother of Jesus? Do you ask others to pray for you? If the saints are alive in God in heaven, why not ask them to pray for us?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:33 am to Revelator
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can they also annul an abortion?
How exactly would that work?? Where does the baby reappear?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 6:34 am to 4cubbies
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Well I guess you know better than God.
No, I guess you do.
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I have experienced many miracles due to the intercession of Our Lady.
No, you haven't. You've experienced many miracles because God granted them. Why are you so sure that He granted them because you asked Juan Diego's 1531 apparition to ask instead of just because you asked?
Are you saying that if you had simply prayed yourself, the answer would have been no?
So Jesus said, "Whatever you ask for in faith, ye shall receive...but only if you ask Mary and she asks Me?"
Funny. My Bible leaves out that last part.
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