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Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:14 am to VOR
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It’s also true that the politicians in power, including Trump, don’t have to deal with the same consequences as most Americans.
I don't think anyone would dispute that. If I had done what Hilary Clinton did with those emails I'd probably be hoping for parole sometime soon.
It's the conclusion that nobody should be accountable because the Political Class isn't accountable. That's the wrong way to shift the problem.
EVERYBODY should be accountable.
And look, it doesn't have to be Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton before the justice system reveals itself to be discriminatory.
I posted n another thread that I grew up with a guy who became an attorney and also a gambling addict. He was using escrow funds to gamble and losing (like all gamblers do), and he was basically playing a Ponzi Scheme...using client B's money to fund client A's transaction, then using client C's money to fund client B's, and so on.
He stole over a million bucks, and his clients had no recourse to get it back. His insurance wouldn't cover it and he was broke from gambling, so there was no one to provide restitution.
He got something like 4 years, served two and a half, I think, in a minimum security prison where he (I'm not kidding) played tennis for half the day every day. Lost 65 lbs while he was there.
Now, I don't know what cubbie's buddy initially did, but I bet it wasn't stealing over a million bucks.
I get that there is (and should be) a delineation between violent and non-violent crimes, but we're way too soft on white collar crime. This guy did 2 1/2 years in a pretend prison for stealing 7 figures.
THAT'S a legitimate "systemic issue."
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:16 am to 4cubbies
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Driving without a license with some additional add-on charges that are similarly impactful of others.
Be honest.
Multiple add on charges...
Add on charges like he had a gun?
Was drunk or high?
Reckless driving?
No insurance? No wait that doesn't impact others...
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It sucks to see someone you care about ruin his life through stupidity.
Soo these add ons were major.
Aren't you just mentioning what he got stopped for, not why his life is now "ruined"
We probably need SFP here to detail what driving without a license means for those on parole...
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:16 am to 4cubbies
Get off the Internet, cut back on your food intake, move more, lose weight. You'll feel better, look better, feel better about yourself and be less miserable. Might even stop being an AWFL.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:16 am to VOR
The same laws that the wealthy flaunt with impunity are enforced with teeth against the poor. No one cares when wealthy celebrities or CEOs are all doing coke and taking pills, but a poor pleb getting caught with a little baggy is going to prison for hard time.
At the same time, I feel like our criminal justice system often bends over backwards to excuse and slap the wrists of repeated violent offenders. I constantly see rapists, armed robbers, burglars, carjackers, and attempted murders getting out of jail on extremely low bail (even no bail), and if sentenced at all, getting extremely light sentences or even just probation.
Not only do we have a two-tiered justice system where the wealthy are treated far better, we have a system where the most violent and disruptive behavior is actually tolerated while far more innocuous behavior is punished draconianly, or unevenly based on if the offender and judge are of the same political tribe.
At the same time, I feel like our criminal justice system often bends over backwards to excuse and slap the wrists of repeated violent offenders. I constantly see rapists, armed robbers, burglars, carjackers, and attempted murders getting out of jail on extremely low bail (even no bail), and if sentenced at all, getting extremely light sentences or even just probation.
Not only do we have a two-tiered justice system where the wealthy are treated far better, we have a system where the most violent and disruptive behavior is actually tolerated while far more innocuous behavior is punished draconianly, or unevenly based on if the offender and judge are of the same political tribe.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:18 am to kingbob
I worked in a DA’s office for four years. Violent charges or gun related charges were routinely plead down to drug offenses to avoid longer sentences. Much of the “muh non-violent prison population” is bullshite.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:18 am to 4cubbies
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I'm contending that both my student and the President of the United States have felony convictions yet I never see this board do anything but excuse or explain away Trump's convictions while lamenting on the "bad choices" of people like my student.
I'm not going to argue Trump's "convictions".
I will, instead, point out a very simple distinction... Post-conviction, one individual managed to stay out of trouble, the other didn't.
If you want your student to prosper, tell him to be like Trump and get a job and stop breaking the law.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:18 am to aubie101
Worst mistake ever was letting women vote
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:18 am to Y.A. Tittle
I don't know why he never got a license. I provided him with every resource I could find to help him obtain one.
Someone ran a stop sign and pulled out in front of me on Poydras right before Christmas. It's the end of March and I'm still driving around with a damaged vehicle because just the thought of dealing with insurance companies and body shops and getting a rental exhausts me. I've done all of those things before. I know I am capable of doing it again but I just can't muster the mental fortitude required to deal with it right now. I wonder if navigating all the hoops one has to jump through to get a license might seem overwhelming to someone who doesn't have experience navigating entrenched government bureaucracies the the DMV.
Someone ran a stop sign and pulled out in front of me on Poydras right before Christmas. It's the end of March and I'm still driving around with a damaged vehicle because just the thought of dealing with insurance companies and body shops and getting a rental exhausts me. I've done all of those things before. I know I am capable of doing it again but I just can't muster the mental fortitude required to deal with it right now. I wonder if navigating all the hoops one has to jump through to get a license might seem overwhelming to someone who doesn't have experience navigating entrenched government bureaucracies the the DMV.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:21 am to 4cubbies
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Why imply that this board has an irrational and uncritical loyalty to Donald Trump?
Just like you have an irrational and mindlessly critical loyalty to be anti-Trump. So what? What does that have to do with any of this?
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I'm contending that both my student and the President of the United States have felony convictions yet I never see this board do anything but excuse or explain away Trump's convictions
Was your student targeted by the DOJ for political reasons and convicted on charges that—by definition—were bogus? If so, I'll gladly condemn those charges as well.
Sidebar: Trump was convicted on falsifying business records under New York penal code 175.10.
That's a misdemeanor unless the falsification was to conceal another crime.
You tell me. What was the other crime he was supposedly attemptng to conceal?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:21 am to kingbob
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but a poor pleb getting caught with a little baggy is going to prison for hard time.
Not without a shite load of priors or it was plead down from whatever violent crime went with the possession charges. No one is going to prison for possession on a first offense
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:22 am to 4cubbies
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Someone ran a stop sign and pulled out in front of me on Poydras right before Christmas. It's the end of March and I'm still driving around with a damaged vehicle because just the thought of dealing with insurance companies and body shops and getting a rental exhausts me. I've done all of those things before. I know I am capable of doing it again but I just can't muster the mental fortitude required to deal with it right now. I wonder if navigating all the hoops one has to jump through to get a license might seem overwhelming to someone who doesn't have experience navigating entrenched government bureaucracies the the DMV.
Holy shite
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:22 am to NIH
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Violent charges or gun related charges were routinely plead down to drug offenses to avoid longer sentences.
Even when drug offenses weren't part of any of the original charges?
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:25 am to 4cubbies
No
Go fix your car
Go fix your car
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:25 am to 4cubbies
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I wonder if navigating all the hoops one has to jump through to get a license might seem overwhelming to someone who doesn't have experience navigating entrenched government bureaucracies the the DMV.
You tried to help him get his license. He made a decision to not bother. That's on him. Not you, not us, not "the system".
Not only did he choose to remain unlicensed, he also chose to drive knowing it wasn't legal to do so.
Not only did he knowingly, willfully drive illegally.. he did so while on probation for other legal entanglements.
That's three choices right there.
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Someone ran a stop sign and pulled out in front of me on Poydras right before Christmas. It's the end of March and I'm still driving around with a damaged vehicle because just the thought of dealing with insurance companies and body shops and getting a rental exhausts me.
I feel ya... but this is a choice you are making that is NOT illegal.
He doesn't have to get a license... but he shouldn't drive without one.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:26 am to 4cubbies
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but I just can't muster the mental fortitude required to deal with it right now
I can’t imagine being so mentally weak while also living on top of your high horse acting like you are above the world
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:26 am to 4cubbies
The “hoops” for a license are pretty minimal. Plus, you need an ID to do literally anything. The likely reason he was driving without a license was because his license was suspended for previous illegal behavior.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:28 am to kingbob
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The likely reason he was driving without a license was because his license was suspended for previous illegal behavior.
That and criminals tend to like not having ID on them when they commit crimes.
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:28 am to 4cubbies
interesting you didn't say what the arrest was all about - amid that load of verbiage, it would be helpful for a little info on the situation.
But you could not resist the animalistic instinct to try blaming everything on Trump -
strange insertion of your opinion wrt something seemingly unrelated to the gist of your concern about your protectee.
Is he an illegal alien? Are you afraid he will not be able to vote?
do they have a carve out for criminal behavior?? - should they??? - is compassion all they need to straighten out their lives?????? Am I responsible for this poor persons plight???????
But you could not resist the animalistic instinct to try blaming everything on Trump -
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mental and emotional investment in the SAVE Act
strange insertion of your opinion wrt something seemingly unrelated to the gist of your concern about your protectee.
Is he an illegal alien? Are you afraid he will not be able to vote?
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“a certain demographic”
do they have a carve out for criminal behavior?? - should they??? - is compassion all they need to straighten out their lives?????? Am I responsible for this poor persons plight???????
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:29 am to 4cubbies
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I don't know why he never got a license. I provided him with every resource I could find to help him obtain one
Hold the. Phone.
He's one of your best students and going to get his GED.
But he's incapable of getting a license with tons of help and already knowing how to drive?
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I wonder if navigating all the hoops one has to jump through to get a license might seem overwhelming to someone who doesn't have experience navigating entrenched government bureaucracies the the DMV.
You don't think much of him if you think that.
He is incapable of living a normal life in society then.
How can he hold a job, pay rent or taxes.
Why aren't you bailing him out?
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