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re: Poland officially announces it just invoked NATO Article 4

Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:14 pm to
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Harry Boutte


You’re not getting your war.

You’ll just have to keep jerking off to John Bolton and Bill Kristol.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Thankfully we have a President that wants as few dead soldiers as possible.

If we just disbanded the army tomorrow then none of them would die!
Moron. Why do you think we fought WWI & WWII? Because Germany & Japan were going to invade America?
Typical pacifist pussy. And, before you ask, I already stood my watch. But I’d do it again!
Posted by UPT
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:25 pm to
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I’m sure the board will find an excuse for this and give Russia another pass.


Strong leader!!!
VERY Christian!!!
No trannies!!!
Many whites!!!

“Who said we support him on this board?!?!”
Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:30 pm to
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It’s not against the law there.

It is.
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And z absolutely could amend their constitution.

No, he can't.
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He just needs to tell his party to do it.

Well, that's not Zelensky doing it, is it?
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you neocon warmonger

I'm not advocating war, you idiot, I'm trying to tell you what Zelensky can and cannot legally accomplish. That it doesn't comport to what you think a head of state should be doing in the face of an armed invasion is totally irrelevant considering you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Moron. Why do you think we fought WWI & WWII? Because Germany & Japan were going to invade America? Typical pacifist pussy. And, before you ask, I already stood my watch. But I’d do it again!


Take off Rambo.

Take your sons and your brothers and your daughters with you and go fight and die for Ukraine.

No one’s stopping you.

Go get you some.
Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:33 pm to
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You’re not getting your war.

I don't have a war, and I don't want a war. You must have responded to the wrong post.

Had you actually given some context to your statement, it might be have been more clear.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:34 pm to
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You say no to WWIII then in same breath mention Russia maybe using nukes.

That's not technically WW3

That's Russia using nukes.

Unless you mean the world teaming up against Russia is "WW3", but then that would be WW4 and the original Iraq war would be WW3
Posted by jnethe1
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:35 pm to
They want the United States to have to become more involved. Pull out of nato on the basis of unmatched funding.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:38 pm to
You are incorrect. Elections are only banned if martial law is in effect. He can pull that and host an election.

And he has full control of his political party. He can tell them to pass an amendment allowing land to be ceded. His party outright controls over 50% of parliament, and there are enough minority votes to get him to the 2/3 requirement.
Posted by cyarrr
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:52 pm to
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WW3? No



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Nobody other than maybe NK (and China would have something to say about that) would come to help Russia if they invaded Poland and got a NATO response in kind.


China involvement not necessarily in Europe, could create opportunity to invade Taiwan. So yes, WW3. My point is that it can easily go sideways.

Why must you always be a contrarian?
Posted by Harry Boutte
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:54 pm to
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He can pull that and host an election.


You think Putin's going to let everyone in the occupied territory go to the polls?
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pass an amendment allowing land to be ceded

Why do you care? If they are willing to fight for their country, why not keep fighting? Just because you're too big a pussy to fight for yours doesn't mean other people are just as scared.

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And he has full control of his political party


So you're saying he still has the support of his party.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:03 pm to
But you know that Putin is not going to stop and the EOC can't stop him, even though the EOC I'm sure opposes Putin.

I believe it really is time to do a bit more to get ready for war, and that includes mobilizing more US military forces and deploy some of them to Eastern Europe.

Of course I know that Russia is a good EOC nation and I can't think of a better spritual guide for Russians right now. I know that Z-man is not even a Christian and he is not my favorite Ukrainian leader. But it's Putin in control right now and he isn't going to stop.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by TheDeerHunter
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:23 pm to
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even though the EOC I'm sure opposes Putin.


Negative sir. Putin is an OBSERVANT Orthodox Christian and has commissioned the building of hundreds of churches as well as enacted laws protecting women and families.

Putin honoring WW2 dead in Alaska

Putin meeting American Orthodox Bishop

Putin at Pascha (Easter) service

New Russian Army Orthodox Church

So you want to mobilize American troops to attack Orthodox Christians who are fighting Pagan and Neo-Nazi forces (Azov Battalion) in Ukraine which is also oppressing Christians??

Come on buddy.

This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:38 pm to
No, I don't want that. But how do we stop Putin's aggressive foreign policy?

Do we allow Putin to conquer Ukraine and Moldavia and the go to war with him if he tries to conquer Estonia, Lithuania or Latvia?

When is Putin going to stop, in you estimation.

I'm tired of Christians killing each other in wars but what do we do about Putin?

I'm really glad to hear about Putin's support for the EOC. Russia truly needs the EOC these days.
Posted by TheDeerHunter
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:49 pm to
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But how do we stop Putin's aggressive foreign policy


Respectfully, what country has Russia invaded under Putin and left behind in shambles? Now do the same math with US policy.

Russia has had troops in Transnitria since 1992 yet has not invaded Moldavia nor Romania…why? Neither are historical Russian lands and haven’t rattled sabers against Russia until NATO began building largest military base in Romania.

How would you feel if Russia built its largest base in Matamoros, Mexico?

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When is Putin going to stop, in you estimation


Putin had said 1000 times he will stop war in Ukraine when they have full control of 4 oblasts they’re in now. Period.

If the Neocon, One World Order, Atheist Warpigs of NATO want to go to war with Russia, let them do so at their own harm.

i assume you served when the godless Soviet Union was our enemy…I remember running in formation singing cadence about killing commies and a year later singing cadences about killing Iraqis…funny how big bad Russia was lost to military memory until Ukraine and the drawdown from the GWOT.

Russia is not the enemy of America. The Neocons who want war all the time yet never send their own kids to war are the enemies.

MIC has to eat and too many of us fell for the lies once; never again for myself nor my sons.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 2:49 pm to
Good luck Poland
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 3:21 pm to
I know that the Globalists want nothing more than for NATO to go to war with Russia. I oppose the Globalists on everything so I am conflicted here.

That said, Putin's Russia invaded Ukraine, and, under the UN Charter that Russia agreed to after WW2, Russia acted in violation to the International Law of Armed Conflict. So Putin started Russia off on the wrong foot here - by violating International Law.

Let's say that Putin had good reasons for so doing. Fine. I can agree to that for the sake of argument. But what now, after these years of war?

Z-man is not willing to surrender anything for the sake of peace. How can the West demand that he do so when Russia violated the law?

Now we learn that Putin's drones have penetrated 15 miles into Poland's air space. I don't suggest that the USA respond to this provocation with an armed attack on Russia, but, I say that military readiness demands that we bolster our military presence in Eastern Europe.

Are you going to argue that Ukraine is actually part of Russia and thus must be ruled by Russia? Ukraine has already been established as a soverign nation for years now. How do we as an International Community allow Russia to conquer all or part of Ukraine?

Do you suggest that we allow Russia to have control and sovereignty over these disputed Oblasts? Will that stop the war and bring peace to Putin's mind? I hope that is true.

I suppose that this war will continue until Ukraine or Russia quits, and both sides will continue to receive military support from outside countries.

My main point is this: yes you have a right to feel like you are on the right side here, but, Putin invaded a sovereign country and violated International Law. As a matter of Law and Order, we can't abide this.

I'd like to think that Putin will be satisfied with the disputed Oblasts and then want peace after that, but I am not sure about that. And I also have concluded that Putin was crazy to not pursue peaceful diplomacy in his quest to obtain sovereignty over these disputed Oblasts. Putin is a masterful diplomat. Choosing war was a really crazy and dangerous course of action.

Nobody in the USA ever heard about these disputed Oblasts before this war. If Putin has a good case to make for sovereighty over these Oblasts, We Americans never had the chance to hear his case and see the Justice in his position. Putin denied everybody the chance to reason it out because he chose war.

So, please share your thoughts on what Putin is now entitled to and how does the World make peace with Putin?

Let's assume for the sake of argument that Putin is correct and right about these disputed Oblasts. I'll assume that for the sake of argument. But even so, Putin chose military invasion as his method of addressing this political question. He did this although political and diplomatic solutions had not been explored and tried. He should have used diplomacy first.

We can't have a world where Leaders can choose military invasion FIRST even if they are right, can we? I think I'm being reasonable here and I really think that Putin could have won this policy debate through diplomacy rather than resorting to military invasion.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 9:08 pm
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