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Posted on 11/2/26 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 11:21 pm to
honestly jokes or political opinions or anything else aside, i can't imagine what that last minute or so was like. hope the passengers were so freaked out their minds seized up. clearly the pilots were aware to the very end and seems like they knew what was coming 15 seconds or so before. terrifying
may we all pass in our sleep
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/2/26 at 11:26 pm to
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Where did you see that reported?


That was from another ATC recording that same copilot had about 6 months ago. Essentially the same sauce we saw with this audio recording. Let me see if I can find it. (I know you didn't ask me, but I think the guy you asked has clocked out for the night)

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This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted by SnacknGold06
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:05 am to
The whole thing is horrible but those poor little kids. RIP.
Posted by g650Tide
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 12:09 am to
Late to the party here, but the picture is starting to form. At 35,000 ft the window between stall and max Mach is pretty narrow, and the crew reported clear ice and moderate turbulence at -47°C with precipitation building, then asked to climb. Within 30 seconds they were off altitude, then calling overspeed and descending 20,000 ft/min. My guess is an upset at altitude that put them into a dive and then something like Mach tuck, where the airplane pitches itself down and the elevator stops responding. Once you’re past redline there’s no real way out.

The NTSB says there’s evidence the airplane was breaking up before impact, with debris spread across about half a mile, and people looking at the dashcam stills think the horizontal stabs were already gone. If the tail separated in the overspeed, that’s game over regardless of what the pilots did. When I heard the NTSB spokesperson say do not touch anything you find withing a few mile radius, makes me think it broke apart from the dive and they knew it.

The ATC audio is hard to listen to. The first officer was 20 and got her pilot’s license before her driver’s license, and in one of the circulating clips a voice appears to be saying the Lord’s Prayer on the way down.
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Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:47 pm to
I still don't know what to believe on all of this, but I thought I would drop this video off in the spirit of impartiality.

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Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:04 pm to
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I still don't know what to believe on all of this
of course you don’t
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:08 pm to
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of course you don’t


Are you saying you do? The investigation isn't even completed yet. You're providing the textbook definition of a sheep. I have been absolutely fair in how I have presented this thread. I have given you radar images of the storm system the plane allegedly flew through, a detailed engineering analysis on how it allegedly unfolded, ATC recordings of the copilot having similar issues with ATC months prior, etc.

You just cannot tolerate ambiguity. And to me that's frickin super strange.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:19 pm to
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of course you don’t


Nothing? Are you going to ghost like a frickin pussy after I pointed out that I have presented all of the evidence from both sides as honestly as possible? Need I remind you that way back on page like 2 that I said, "it's pretty clear what happened, but I'm not just going to ignore the timing of the air defense systems being installed at Mar-a-Lago?"

Of course you need to be told that. You haven't read a fricking thing in this thread until now. You jumped in on that last post I made, saw ambiguity and had to attack it because you're a low-IQ person. And it's really just that simple.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 9:22 pm
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:33 pm to
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SuperSaint


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