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re: Place Your Bets...Will We See Prosecution of Criminal Charges From the FISA Investigation?

Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:25 am to
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:25 am to
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It is clear that his standard is criminal intent.


If they again hang their hat on “no criminal intent,” and they probably will, we should have mass jury nullifications on all federal trials where there is not a physically harmed victim.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4948 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:25 am to
Sadly it is a no for me. I fear that the lawsuits by Strocyk and McCabe are based on info they received that there will be no charges forthcoming. Hope they’re just trying to play offense and they get hammered.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:29 am to
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I fear that the lawsuits by Strocyk and McCabe are based on info they received that there will be no charges forthcoming.


The suits can really be read different ways including that they’re saying, “Oh snap if we don’t do something proactive it’s going to look like we’re guilty when these indictments come.” But, I agree with you, nothing’s forthcoming; I just don’t base it on the lawsuits because I think they can easily be interpreted the other way around. cheers
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:29 am to
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Maybe some errand boy.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
10363 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:36 am to
Based upon what has occurred (or not occurred to this point), I would say NO.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261584 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:37 am to
Nope. The top levels in DC are basically untouchable.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19088 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:37 am to
No, and it's the FISA cover-up.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27682 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:42 am to
No.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
2861 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:45 am to
Yes Yes Yes, there will be indictments !!

I will permanently ban myself if there are 0 indictments !!

Bookmark please, I'm a man of my word !!

Guaranteed Indictments !!
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:45 am to
Yes.

It all hinges on Durham and Barr. I believe that Durham was the perfect choice to both investigate and POTENTIALLY* charge the crooks in this matter. IG Horowitz seems to be engaging in some sort of dog-and-pony type of review, although I reserve the right to be pleasantly surprised by him. Huber? I follow this matter more closely than most here, but I honestly don't know what to expect from Huber.I just don't know exactly what he's doing, or how passionately he is investigating whatever it is he's looking at.

So for me, it mostly comes down to Durham and Barr. Do they have the resolve and the mettle to potentially prosecute a John Brennan the same way they would go after you or I? Or for that matter, even Hillary Clinton? Everybody here, even posters like Tex Ridder and Draconian Sanctions, knows that Hillary Clinton is a crook. With her, the question isn't whether or not to prosecute her. The only real question is, "Which crime do we start with?"

This isn't a game to me, and I don't give a damn about being proven right. I want OUR COUNTRY to rid itself of this DEEP STATE CORRUPTION as much as we possibly can. I've already told one poster here who disagrees with me on anything ever HAPPENING, but if I'm proven wrong and the whole "Investigate the Investigators" process comes up empty, I'll start a thread and admit that I was wrong. I'll be a man and give the liberals, Never-Trumpers, and some conservatives who simply never believed justice would be served an opportunity to crow about it.

For the sake of this country, I hope I never have to start that thread. If the Deep State gets off scott-free, it's going to be worse than ever.

I mean, look how bad it is now. That bought-and-paid-for puppet Nadler is STILL GOING TO TRY TO IMPEACH TRUMP, and now he's going after Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh, too. You think Nadler's puppet masters would be telling him to do this if the Deep State wasn't worried about what could be coming? They know what they've been doing (for decades, Dems & GOP), and they know that Trump, Barr, Durham, etc. know, too.

PS - Hillary didn't tell Donna Brazile "If that son-of-a-bitch gets elected, we will all hang from nooses" as a joke. Hillary knows where the bodies are buried. Hell, she should know. She buried about 20% of them herself.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 8:03 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6873 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:47 am to
If anyone is charged at all it will be the guy who only job is to lick and seal the envelopes in the mailroom.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:47 am to
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Yes Yes Yes, there will be indictments !!

I will permanently ban myself if there are 0 indictments !!

Bookmark please, I'm a man of my word !!

Guaranteed Indictments !!



Not above the supply room clerk at FBI.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
2861 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:48 am to
We will revisit, and you will be wrong !!
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22359 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:49 am to
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I have no faith in the govt holding govt personnel responsible...
Count me in...
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:51 am to
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. If the Deep State gets off scott-free, it's going to be worse than ever.


It really should be the reset button just as much as if widespread gun confiscation starts, but it won’t, because as a whole we are comfortably numb.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:52 am to
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We will revisit, and you will be wrong !!



Hope so. I will gladly buy you a steak.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147308 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:55 am to
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JAN CRAWFORD: But you have concerns about how they conducted the investigation? WILLIAM BARR: Yes but you know, when you're dealing with official government contact, intent is frequently a murky issue. I'm not suggesting that people did what they did necessarily because of conscious, nefarious motives. Sometimes people can convince themselves that what they're doing is in the higher interest, the better good. They don't realize that what they're doing is really antithetical to the democratic system that we have. They start viewing themselves as the guardians of the people that are more informed and insensitive than everybody else. They can- in their own mind, they can have those kinds of motives. And sometimes they can look at evidence and facts through a biased prism that they themselves don't realize
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It is clear that his standard is criminal intent. And lately, that is exactly how all these big fish have been allowed to walk recently.
When I heard Barr say this on TV months ago my stomach turned. I then convinced myself that he said this to placate him being called partisan and Trump's personal lawyer (AG)

This very thing happened with McCabe. I then thought, now that Barr is there real justice will be served. Then Comey skated with this same premise. (all under the guise that it is the low hanging fruit) I agree with Fitton when he says this is not normal, you get as many charges and tack on the big ones with full evidence of it all.

Comey screamed intent when he said under oath that he leaked a memo to start a special council on President Trump. There is no and's if's or but's about it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124184 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:56 am to
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I want to believe but I’m so jaded with our justice system
Posted by MoLiberty
Member since Aug 2018
780 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 7:58 am to
Sensitivity and diversity training yes.

Prosecutions, no.

Laws and accountability only apply to the plebs, not the government overlords and ruling elite.
Posted by HAIR
Spotsman's Paradise
Member since Jul 2019
219 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:01 am to
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Will We See Prosecution of Criminal Charges From the FISA Investigation?


NEVER HAPPEN. THEY ARE ALL ABOVE THE LAW.

Prove me wrong.
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