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Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:07 pm to MuricanRavioli
Sounds great TBH.
What's your plan to make it work?
What's your plan to make it work?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:09 pm to MuricanRavioli
Name one thing the government runs efficiently and effectively and we can start a conversation.
They can’t even handle the VA health system and that is a small percentage of the population.
They can’t even handle the VA health system and that is a small percentage of the population.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:19 pm to MuricanRavioli
Supply and demand
Universal healthcare increases the demand for healthcare.
Does nothing about the supply of healthcare.
Costs rise.
The cost of care goes up or shortages happen.
Universal healthcare increases the demand for healthcare.
Does nothing about the supply of healthcare.
Costs rise.
The cost of care goes up or shortages happen.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:39 pm to MuricanRavioli
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People who are against a universal healthcare system, why?
Because I can afford my health insurance and healthcare already.
Why would I want to voluntarily pay more money and likely have worse care?
That and I don't trust the US government to run ANYTHING efficiently or cost effectively.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:49 pm to dcrews
Why doesn't 0Bama use it first?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:11 pm to MuricanRavioli
Why? Because I already have experienced Tricare Remote and it's awful .
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:41 pm to MuricanRavioli
Not against everyone having healthcare just against it being administered by the government. Name one thing the government has ever operated that they didn’t figure out a way to royally frick it up?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:41 pm to Cheese Grits
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Because the Robber Barons and company towns of the late 1800's and early 1900's espoused such freedom? Capitalism fails when it fails to accommodate a human side Socialism may work but I doubt it because some are always more equal than others.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
—C. S. Lewis
I will take Capitalism and Robber Barons, thank you.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:44 pm to DaBindah
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And again, family or not, some bozo who forms their opinions/gets info about healthcare from a TV show shouldn't be in a position to make those decisions.
Who should?
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who forms their opinions/gets info about healthcare from a TV show
What are you basing that claim on?
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Healthcare is an expensive, finite resource...there’s a reason why the majority of top 20 hospitals are in the US, there’s a reason 80% of drugs originate in the US.
We have great healthcare and have effectively curated great healthcare because intelligent people know they can make profit by doing so. Remove the incentive an remove the progress. Remove the incentive and they’ll focus elsewhere.
US citizens subsidize the rest of the world’s healthcare. If someone from Europe asks why “our” healthcare is so expensive tell them it’s to allow theirs to be so cheap.
It costs about a billion dollars and ten years to take a drug to market, that cost is burdened by American citizens. You’re welcome.
We have great healthcare and have effectively curated great healthcare because intelligent people know they can make profit by doing so. Remove the incentive an remove the progress. Remove the incentive and they’ll focus elsewhere.
US citizens subsidize the rest of the world’s healthcare. If someone from Europe asks why “our” healthcare is so expensive tell them it’s to allow theirs to be so cheap.
It costs about a billion dollars and ten years to take a drug to market, that cost is burdened by American citizens. You’re welcome.
This post was edited on 12/8/18 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:52 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Great idea! Ending hunger and poverty.
If you weren't in poverty, you wouldn't be hungry! Someone should start a program along those lines..kind of a "War on Poverty"! Such a noble cause! What could go wrong??
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:53 pm to MuricanRavioli
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Not taking any side just curious
Troll Warning!
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:55 pm to Nguyener
quote:Might I remind you of Vietnam and Afghanistan? Iraq's not a slam dunk either. Might even say the modern war and defense is as bad as the DMV in many cases (cough 9/11, Boston, Miami, Texas church coughcough)
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Name a successful resolution of a problem by the Feds in all of history. We'll wait.
War and defense. That's about it.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:56 pm to MuricanRavioli
There is not enough money in the country to pay for this. The income tax rate would need to go to 80% then all income would drop and boom.. broke. That's why socialism only works when enforced by force.
A government big enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you have,
A government big enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take everything you have,
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:57 pm to Speckhunter2012
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
—C. S. Lewis
I will take Capitalism and Robber Barons, thank you.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:58 pm to LSURep864
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This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:33 pm to MuricanRavioli
Because government destroys everything it touches. Pretty much that simple. It’s already destroyed healthcare as is why not go all in. What could possibly go wrong
Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:47 pm to MuricanRavioli
Because I think there is a better way that can cover just as many sick and needy. I don’t think our current system does that.
I also think if Republicans don’t compromise on health care, then we will end up with universal health care.
I also think if Republicans don’t compromise on health care, then we will end up with universal health care.
Posted on 12/8/18 at 6:54 pm to MuricanRavioli
Answer this.
Name one thing.. one thing.. that the government does efficiently, effectively, within budget, and better than the private sector.
Name one thing.. one thing.. that the government does efficiently, effectively, within budget, and better than the private sector.
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