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re: Pennsylvania is no longer a swing state

Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Prattville Al
Member since May 2020
2586 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:49 pm to
I've always heard the Amish don't vote! Is that true?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10687 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:54 pm to
Do you even Philly bro?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:32 am to
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So from Tues to Friday, I'm sure Dems will be filling out ballots for dead people and aliens to try to make up the 30k shortage in Pa.



November 2016 to 9/21/20
GOP +104,058
Dem -79,202


That is a 183,258 advantage since 2016 not 30k.


Lets break this down further.

Trump beat Crooked by 44,292 votes in 2016. Furthermore 146,715 votes in PA went to Gary Johnson. 2% of the vote went to independents and others. Lets assume the same 2% will go to independent and others in 2020.

I think it is safe to assume Trump will get 60% of the 2016 Gary Johnson voters and Biden will get 40%. Gary Johnson voters are a lot more conservative and antiwar than liberal neocons. So that is a net 29,343 gain by Trump.

Lets add it up:

183,258 advantage Trump in registered voters.
44,292 advantage Trump over Crooked in 2016.
29,343 advantage Trump from Gary Johnson voters.

Total: 256,893 votes.

So the Dems will have to overcome that number of votes in mail in ballots.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:33 am to
Dems still have a sizable registration edge in Pennsylvania. It will be close!
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Lets add it up:

183,258 advantage Trump in registered voters.
44,292 advantage Trump over Crooked in 2016.
29,343 advantage Trump from Gary Johnson voters.

Total: 256,893 votes.



The 183k that registered to GOP are Dems that crossed over and gave him the 44k win over Hillary. Adding them together isn't correct because it isn't a net total of "new" voters for trump.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13946 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:35 am to
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183,258 advantage Trump in registered voters.
44,292 advantage Trump over Crooked in 2016.
29,343 advantage Trump from Gary Johnson voter


I don't think this math is gonna hold. You have a to assume a fair amount of 183K advantage Trump you mention is Dem voters who voted Trump in '16 just going ahead and switching their registration to the Republican party.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101398 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:35 am to
I know that in a lot of states Trump was getting as many votes uncontested in the 2020 primaries then the Dems got on their clown show. Would be cool to see those numbers again also with 2012 for context now that we have better context of the race
Posted by PimpDaddyHustleStack
Lowcountry
Member since Nov 2007
270 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:37 am to
The Philly Dem machine will be printing ballots at a frantic pace. I grew up in that town and can tell you they will stop at nothing when it comes to stealing this election. It will get ugly.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78160 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:40 am to
Hasn't the Green party candidate been taken off the ballot? Didn't they get a not insignificant percentage of the vote in 2016?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:41 am to
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The 183k that registered to GOP are Dems that crossed over and gave him the 44k win over Hillary. Adding them together isn't correct because it isn't a net total of "new" voters for trump.




Gotcha.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:43 am to
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Hasn't the Green party candidate been taken off the ballot? Didn't they get a not insignificant percentage of the vote in 2016?




Independent 51,306
Jill Stein, Green 49,941
Darrell Castle, Constitution 21,572
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:46 am to
They are arrogant enough to think that they can make moderates and slightly right leaning citizens believe that 150K+ democrat votes were the only ballots that weren’t counted on Election Day.

I know that they know this and have a narrative already. There will some reasoning that they will parrot as to why 150k+ democrat votes were unavailable on election day but only 12k Trump votes were late being counted. Probably some variation of systemic racism if I had to guess.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52916 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2933 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:52 am to
Now factor in the millions of ballots that have already been sent out . Ballot harvesting , and fraud is gonna run ramped this election .
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56127 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 8:55 am to
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But 60 minutes told me last night that Pennsylvania’s results won’t be known until 2 weeks after the election.


The chad election of 2000 was on Nov.7. The Supreme Court made it'd decision on Dec.12 that verified the results. I'm afraid this will drag on even longer before Trump is declared the winner by the court.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116755 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:08 am to
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The worrisome thing about PA is they’ll keep finding and counting votes in Philadelphia until Biden has enough


Philly always has good turnout. In 2016 they had several precincts with well over 100% of the registered voters turning out to vote.
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
11689 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:15 am to
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Don't discount those dead voters my friend. They are relentless.


And cousin Pookie. Never forget about cousin Pookie.
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 9:15 am
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5104 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:33 am to
Pittsburgh and Philadelphia will still be a big problem. And for some reason, they still love Joe out on the East side of PA even though he can barely be considered from the state.
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