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re: Pelosi won't send peach mint articles until Turtle tells her the rules

Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:47 pm to
You have to pass it to know what’s in it......
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:50 pm to


Her part is done. She either turns the articles over to the Senate or the impeachment is done. She has ZERO power over the Senate. Seems like an abuse of her congressional power, doesn't it.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4948 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:51 pm to
Nancy has only two options
1. shite
2. Get off the pot
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

The "case" that the prosecution has chosen not to present.



Until the articles are delivered, there's nothing before the Senate to dismiss.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147389 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:56 pm to
Nancy supposedly has 25 days or Turtle can dismiss. Turtle could change the rules at anytime and dismiss. The R's don't want witnesses because the crooked dems and GOPe are exposed in dirty deeds done dirt cheap money laundering in Ukraine.

DiFi thinks waiting 25 days is foolish.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:59 pm to
Well duh

The post you commented on had step 1 and step 2.

1 is first
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:15 pm to
He should say the Senate rules will be the same the house committee adopted
Posted by EllisD
Member since Feb 2009
888 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:19 pm to
you have to send the articles to see what the rules of the trial are

This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147389 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Democratic lawmakers in the upper chamber say Pelosi has achieved her goal of putting a spotlight on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) opposition to witness testimony and they’re ready to start hearing House impeachment managers and Trump’s defense team make their arguments.

“Time plays an unknown role in all of this, and the longer it goes on, the less the urgency becomes. So if it’s serious and urgent, it should come over. If it isn’t, don’t send it over,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), the top-ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee.

Asked if colleagues are starting to get impatient, Feinstein said, “If it’s going to happen, yes,” referring to the likelihood of a trial actually taking place.

“I’m not a big fan of impeachment but I think there’s enough to take a good look, and we should,” she said.

Feinstein said she doesn’t have “any sense” when the trial may start and neither do her colleagues.

LINK
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147389 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:53 pm to
turtle and Graham's responses

LINK
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
Nancy has no super powers as Speaker. She has the same authority as all House members. The house voted to impeach and send to Senate. She has no authority to not send over to the Senate. Lindsey said Sunday that he would call a vote in "Days not weeks" to begin work on the articles if they have sent or not.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Nancy has no super powers as Speaker. She has the same authority as all House members. The house voted to impeach and send to Senate. She has no authority to not send over to the Senate. Lindsey said Sunday that he would call a vote in "Days not weeks" to begin work on the articles if they have sent or not.



The proper procedure here is very much debatable as far as sending over the articles and the senate moving on them. The only "rules" over how this is handled are found in the House and Senate Rules, but even there, no timeline or deadline exists over when the articles must be delivered or what the Senate can do if they aren't.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53779 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:20 pm to
Rule#1.

The articles of impeachment must have very specific and well defined crimes against the president as per the Constitution if the articles of impeachment do not have specific crimes the senate will throw the case out."
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12124 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:26 pm to
Is there some line in our constitution that says the Senate has to wait for a physical piece of paper from this bitch’s office to act?

Could someone link that for me?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64497 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:28 pm to
Funny how Nancy lectures on separation of powers then sh!ts all over them lol.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12124 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Time plays an unknown role in all of this, and the longer it goes on, the less the urgency becomes. So if it’s serious and urgent, it should come over. If it isn’t, don’t send it over,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), the top-ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee.
If it isn’t urgent, then it’s not worthy of impeachment.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Is there some line in our constitution that says the Senate has to wait for a physical piece of paper from this bitch’s office to act?

Could someone link that for me?


It's in the Senate Rules that they have to wait on the delivery. They could change those rules, but apparently they don't have the votes.

Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20901 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:33 pm to
Everyone knows she is postering and has no intention of submitting the articles. All those demands to the Senate- they should just laugh in the old bag's face!
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12124 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Her part is done. She either turns the articles over to the Senate or the impeachment is done. She has ZERO power over the Senate. Seems like an abuse of her congressional power, doesn't it.
One could even call it an “obstruction of Congress.”
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:38 pm to
LINK

quote:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell so far lacks the votes to change Senate impeachment rules (should he decide that is what he wants to do) and allow the trial of President Trump to begin without formal transmission of the articles, which the House approved last month.

Some Republicans are pushing to change the rules, easing the way to dismiss charges against Trump should Pelosi sit on the articles indefinitely.

Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri has introduced a resolution, supported by about a dozen Republicans, that would change Senate rules to permit a vote on dismissing articles of impeachment against Trump absent receipt of the documents from the House.

But changing Senate rules requires a 67-vote supermajority, and Democrats would surely block Hawley’s resolution.

“It is a rule of impeachment in the Senate that we must receive the papers; it continues to be my hope that the speaker will send them on over. The House argued that this was an emergency,” McConnell told reporters.


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