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ShortyRob
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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No, Shorty, is is your analysis that is lazy. It is the equivalent of saying that red red because it is red.

Analysis?

Honestly, it requires no analysis to say, "yep, ya gotta be legally here to vote".

Don't confuse your contortions for "analysis".

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What are the objective reasons that a local resident should NOT have a say in local matters?
Why yes, yes there are. Tons of them. Recognized by basically every nation on the planet other than American liberals.

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The fact that New Zealand says “no,” is not an objective analysis. It is simply an example.
I used NZ as an example. I could use pretty much every nation on the planet as an example.


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Rogelio is not setting foreign policy or funding the military, when he votes in a school board election. He is simply helping decide whether it is better to use local resources to build a library OR a new sports stadium.
Good for him. He should do that where he LEGALLY would reside. Are you so retarded as to think the only reasons we don't let them vote in Federal elections are Foreign Policy and Military?

Dude. This is one of those threads. One of those where what you REALLY are is so damned flagrantly obvious it's not even funny.

Why don't you just come out of the damned closet like VOR finally did?


GRTiger
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
We should not allow those here without permission any level of comfort. It objectively encourages more illegal behavior.


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The Maj
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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local resident
that happens to be here illegally in this country...

Quit leaving that shite out and you will see where your entire argument falls apart...



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ShortyRob
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Hank is just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. He knows damn well what the frick is wrong with Dems opposing something like this.


No.

Hank, like VOR before him, is a flaming liberal playing a part to try and steer conversations. Each new one like him acts like they invented this shite. And, each time, I fell like the parent of a 16 year old who thinks he's the first kid to climb out the window at night.

We're talking about a guy who tried to pass of DailyKos shite on this board on the sly. OBSCURE DailyKos shite that one would have almost certainly have had to be a REGULAR DailyKos guy to even be aware of.
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dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Everyone on this thread is acting as if this resolution addressed only voting by illegal aliens in federal elections (which is not permitted). It addressed NOT ONLY voting in national elections, BUT ALSO voting in state and local elections.

The federal government has NO Constitutional authority to tell state and local governments who can vote in state and local elections, outside the 19th and 26th Amendments (no discrimination based upon sex or age, respectively).

This is one of the rare instances in which the Dems are completely correct ... even if one questions their motivations.


When was the last time you walked into a voting precinct and they handed you a ballot that was only local? They do not, they hand you a ballot with everything on it.

You are one stupid mother...over and over and over you post stupid things. Do you even want to try and get something right? Guess not.


TbirdSpur2010
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
His little routine has worn quite thin. Threadbare, even.

This shite is fricking obvious, for frick's sake


ShortyRob
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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His little routine has worn quite thin. Threadbare, even.

This shite is fricking obvious, for frick's sake


Yes. It is VERY friggin obvious. And he actually thinks he's slick!


mrsray
Member since May 2019
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
they dont even have a 'right' to be in our country! but they have voting rights?


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antibarner
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
Very few of the illegals are homeowners paying taxes.The vast majority are a net drain on our economy and that's not even debatable.

The lid is off of the plan now this is a massive power grab so it is time to counter it and just come on out in the open.

Most of them are two time felons. Not only did the enter the country illegally, but they failed to appear for their court hearings and are on the run.

Let's stop this illegal voting fraud before 2020. Round them up and ship them out. When the inevitable screaming starts, just say failure to appear and fugitive from justice. They have to go.


TbirdSpur2010
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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We're talking about a guy who tried to pass of DailyKos shite on this board on the sly. OBSCURE DailyKos shite that one would have almost certainly have had to be a REGULAR DailyKos guy to even be aware of.


frick, I keep forgetting how damning that was


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TigerBait1971
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
LiberalHank just needs to come out of the closet.

It's 2019 for God's sakes.


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EZE Tiger Fan
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Hank, like VOR before him, is a flaming liberal playing a part to try and steer conversations. Each new one like him acts like they invented this shite. And, each time, I fell like the parent of a 16 year old who thinks he's the first kid to climb out the window at night.


You nailed it.

I wonder how far off the deep end Hank will fall compared to VOR. LOL


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goatmilker
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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He is simply helping decide whether it is better to use local resources to build a library OR a new sports stadium.






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Janky
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Hank is just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.


Water is wet.

As a matter of fact, we should take Rogelio's home and kick his arse out.
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ShortyRob
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
Like, um, what could illegals voting in local elections do besides affect school boards?

Oh, I dunno. They could eventually outnumber actual citizens or, at least create a large enough subset to drive TONS of local policies to benefit primarily other illegals.

We already have places declaring themselves sanctuary cities. One can only imagine how that expands if fricking illegals are driving policy!

I just wish Hank would admit he's right in line with the average DailyKos user and stop the frickin charade.


ShortyRob
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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frick, I keep forgetting how damning that was


I won't be forgetting.


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cajunangelle
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
The only illegals voting in States currently are for local school boards and local council. Federal law on illegals voting for President, Congress et al...trumps all.

The democrats have slowly moved on legals voting for years. Many times denying it, then saying they will turn Texas blue.... Think-tanks and community organizations (especially started by the Castro's in San Antonio, TX and in Chicago) obviously have a goal.
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cajunangelle
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Hank, like VOR before him, is a flaming liberal playing a part to try and steer conversations. Each new one like him acts like they invented this shite. And, each time, I fell like the parent of a 16 year old who thinks he's the first kid to climb out the window at night.

We're talking about a guy who tried to pass of DailyKos shite on this board on the sly. OBSCURE DailyKos shite that one would have almost certainly have had to be a REGULAR DailyKos guy to even be aware of.
didn't he claim he was a libertarian/'classic liberal' as well?


Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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Why?

Set aside emotion (which you normally do quite well) and ask “If Rogelio lives in East Bumphuk, TX, owns a home, and pays taxes to the school district, why should he not vote to choose the people who will be spending that tax money?”


Because he's a criminal alien?
A US citizen with a felony on record (in some states a small amount of pot is a felony) can't vote. Why should the criminal alien be allowed to vote? The whole concept of criminal aliens voting is just dumb.


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AggieHank86
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re: Pelosi & Democrats Unanimously reject a motion condemning Illegal Immigrant Voting
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When was the last time you walked into a voting precinct and they handed you a ballot that was only local? They do not, they hand you a ballot with everything on it.

You are one stupid mother...over and over and over you post stupid things. Do you even want to try and get something right? Guess not.
Every time I vote.

I have no idea where you live, but in Texas, out city and school elections are not even held on the same day as federal elections. Even if that were not the case, it would be a simple matter to print separate ballots for federal and local elections. Some people would get a ballot from each stack and some from one stack only.

But that is logistics. It does not remotely address the substantive issue.

At each level of government, a decision must be made as to whether the interests of a given person are adequately-aligned with the responsibilities of that level of government to justify granting such person the franchise in elections at that level of government.

It is ENTIRELY reasonable to determine that non-citizens’ interests would not justify their participation in federal elections (for example setting foreign policy and military spending).

By the same token, it is entirely reasonable to say that a local property owner has adequate ties to the local community to allow him to vote in local elections.

Lastly, it is entirely reasonable to say that a balancing of those interests at the federal level should be CONDUCTED at the federal level, AND that the same balancing of interests at a local level should be CONDUCTED at the local level.

This is why we are a federal republic rather than a national state. Why do y’all hate federal republics?


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