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Patrick Bet-David on possible Iran deal

Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:38 pm
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
2159 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:38 pm


quote:

There is a lot of noise surrounding the potential US/Iran deal.

Here’s what the rumors are so far:

- Iran has agreed to give up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. Iran currently has 400 kg of highly enriched uranium. Enough for 11 nuclear bombs.

- The US would begin a phased unfreezing of Iran’s $6b to $30b in cash.

- The Strait of Hormuz will open up.

- Iran won’t charge a penny for ships to pass through. No $2m toll fee.

- The US agrees to relieve some of the sanctions.

- War ENDS on all fronts with Lebanon.

- US forces near Iran to withdraw.

- 30 to 60 days to finalize the nuclear deal.

If true, that’s a massive victory for the President.

Here are the winners and losers.

Winners:

1. American people. Oil prices will likely fall. Shipping insurance costs drop. Inflation pressure eases.

2. The President

3. Global markets.

4. Stock market.

5. Gulf states. Temporary tension eliminated. I have them as both winners and losers.

6. IRGC gains legitimacy. They’re not Venezuela. Whether anyone likes it or not. Including myself.

7. China is a major winner. The Strait of Hormuz hurt them the most. They can spin this to their people that the deal got done after the President left China.

8. Russia relies on Iran being a bit more stable.

9. NATO nations were starting to worry. They were pansies shivering about having to help the US. (They’re also big losers in my eyes)

Losers:

1. Iranian people. No one knows what the IRGC will do after this deal to their own people. Their media outlets will say they beat America. That message will 100% be pushed. The Iranian people will be under even more scrutiny by the IRGC.

2. Obama’s administration. This sounds like a much stronger deal than Obama’s administration made.

3. Netanyahu. He wanted regime change or collapse for his legacy, but Trump wasn’t on the same page at the end.

4. NATO was exposed. They showed they don’t have America’s back if shite were to hit the fan. Terrible moment for them.

5. Reza Pahlavi. Another year of not being able to help his people become free. This point will lead to more memes by the RP loyalists but it’s the truth.

6. Gulf states. The IRGC still controls a neighbor capable of firing rockets at surrounding Gulf nations.

7. Iranian proxies and non state actors. Hezbollah, Houthis, and Shia militias will not receive the same funding flow if sanctions are removed under limitations tied to the agreement.

8. Defense contractors and war hawks. They wanted this thing to continue so they could land massive contracts. I’m sure they’re not happy.

9. Oil producers benefiting from high prices.

10. Political extremists on both sides. Those who wanted to see the President lose (woke right) and those pushing for nuclear war.

11. Democrats. They desperately needed this to continue heading into the midterms. They will HATE this deal. Don’t worry, they’ll still find a way to blame Trump. But independents won’t fall for the BS. Democrats and the woke right will follow suit, but not reasonable independents who can see through the nonsense.

I predicted this would be done before June 14th. Lots of people pushed back. Obviously, it’s not done yet, and anything can happen, especially when dealing with Iran, but if the President pulls this off, the news outlets, pundits, and influencers will move on to the next issue after they’re done crying nonstop.

The greatest 60 days of positive distractions are around the corner.

President Trump’s birthday: June 14th
US 250 year anniversary: July 4th
World Cup: June 11th to July 19th

The world will move on, and the President can focus on driving results toward the midterms, Cuba, affordability and other issues.

Love him or hate him, he continues to show how fluid his mind is and that he can change his approach depending on whether things do or don’t go his way.

Future Looks Bright.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8225 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:46 pm to
I don't believe Iran will follow through on the "Nuclear deal". They have not proven to be reliable in the past.

And this is a downright shitty deal for the Iranian people. I agree it's not our job to liberate them, but we shouldn't have talked so much shite like that was a goal along the way.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27469 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

The world will move on, and the President can focus on driving results toward the midterms, Cuba, affordability and other issues.


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

And this is a downright shitty deal for the Iranian people. I agree it's not our job to liberate them, but we shouldn't have talked so much shite like that was a goal along the way.


Yup. Gonna be wild
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65906 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

And this is a downright shitty deal for the Iranian people. I agree it's not our job to liberate them, but we shouldn't have talked so much shite like that was a goal along the way.


We always said they had to take it. We gave them the best possible chance they'll ever have.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12156 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

Their media outlets will say they beat America. That message will 100% be pushed. 


And like good little lackeys, the retards around here will push it relentlessly. Hell, they already are.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12156 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:00 am to
quote:

We always said they had to take it. We gave them the best possible chance they'll ever have.


They will act like Trump and Netanyahu both didn't say this all along, pretend Trump claimed we would remove them ourselves no matter the cost, and then bitch that he didn't meet a goal they defined for him.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34045 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:02 am to
Yep this is when the SFPs of the world start proclaiming we should’ve sent in the troops.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10048 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:03 am to
In other words Trump was worse than Obama for the Iranian people and better for IRCG.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
34045 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:03 am to
Wow
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4796 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:09 am to
No,taqiyya corono.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8225 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:14 am to
quote:

We always said they had to take it. We gave them the best possible chance they'll ever have.


No, we (and Bibi) told them to stay sheltered until given the green light after bombing was complete.

If we were going to hang them out to dry, we should have just kept our mouths shut. If you don't want to be a liberator, don't act like one...

Trump had all of the momentum prior to the ceasefire and a consensus in the Arab nations (which is rare). FFS Iran's neighbors were joining arms with the US/Israel against Iran.

Seems like little or nothing was gained.
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7631 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:16 am to
quote:

don't believe Iran will follow through on the "Nuclear deal". They have not proven to be reliable in the past.


Well, all Trump can really do is get them to agree to it. He can’t control the future. It’s up to future administrations to actively monitor. I have no doubt that if we have leaders in place who are lax, they’ll definitely try to get it again.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20855 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:19 am to
In other words, it was all for naught and is a failure. I voted for Trump twice but this is by far his biggest screw up.


He let Israel take his focus off China, the real enemy and they won in this.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23427 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:20 am to
quote:

And this is a downright shitty deal for the Iranian people. I agree it's not our job to liberate them, but we shouldn't have talked so much shite like that was a goal along the way.

I say this as someone who really wasn’t a fan of escalating our attacks, but no one could’ve been expected to do more than President Trump did to try to accomplish regime change and help the dissidents in Iran.

He took a ton of risks and spent a lot of political capital to take this to the absolute edge of what was possible to destroy the IRGC, they were just too entrenched in terms of control of the Iranian military to make it happen.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 1:14 am
Posted by superwolf
Member since Dec 2006
1176 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:27 am to
He's FOS. When they say what they are hearing. Trump isn't going to do anything stupid. None of them know anything.
This post was edited on 5/24/26 at 12:30 am
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41574 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:28 am to
frick no. We most definitely should not move a fricking inch until we have the enriched uranium. No. No moving troops from the area until that portion of the agreement is done. We leave, there is 0% chance they follow through. Hell, if we stay the chances they follow through is low unless both Russia and China have made it clear it is over and time to move on.

I'm getting sick of people who keep talking about regime change. The regime has changed. All of the top people in power at the time the attack started are dead. We never said we would stay until we had established a puppet regime.

The regime if there is one, in charge now isn't the same as when we started. If Putin was killed wouldn't you say the Russian regime had changed? The Iranian people need to seize power if they want it. We greatly softened the target. It is up to them to rebel if they want to control their destiny.

Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29290 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:29 am to
quote:

They will act like Trump and Netanyahu both didn't say this all along, pretend Trump claimed we would remove them ourselves no matter the cost, and then bitch that he didn't meet a goal they defined for him.


Trump said our goal was removing them as a nuclear country and regime change. The regime has not changed and we have another extension of nuclear talks. As it stands now, this isn't really a win.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60730 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:29 am to
quote:

He let Israel take his focus off China, the real enemy and they won in this.

I've been told this way 5d chess against China from the very beginning
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22786 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:10 am to
Terrible fricking deal
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