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re: Parents required to sign statement saying they will not observe remote classes
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:27 am to TheFonz
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:27 am to TheFonz
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So what happens if the parents refuse to sign?
Nothing. By naming it a GUIDELINE, they deemed the document optional.
If they called it a POLICY it would be different, but a GUIDELINE is unenforceable.
The conversation would go like this:
"If you were actually professionally certified in CISSP, CISM, CISA, or any other certification giving you the authority to audit or inspect documents and frameworks you would know that a guideline is a recommendation and, by definition, optional."
The districts know this, of course. If they make it a POLICY, that obligates more than just the district, it also obligates the governing body, which can result in them being decertified if taken to court.
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 11:32 am
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Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:30 am to TigerAxeOK
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So our tax money pays for these educators... but we're not allowed to witness what we're paying for?
How often did you go observe classes at the local high school before corona?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:30 am to anc
1. why would anyone sign something like that?
2. even if the parent didn't follow thru and did observe there is no damages, so it means nothing really
3. also the video can be recorded
2. even if the parent didn't follow thru and did observe there is no damages, so it means nothing really
3. also the video can be recorded
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:33 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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1. why would anyone sign something like that?
Ignorance. These folks are counting on parents being less educated than they are.
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2. even if the parent didn't follow thru and did observe there is no damages, so it means nothing really
Like I've said multiple times, a guideline is only a recommendation. It cannot be enforced by any legal or punitive means.
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3. also the video can be recorded
If it's Zoom, the individual hosting is the only one who can record if I'm not mistaken.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:35 am to Esquire
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How often did you go observe classes at the local high school before corona?
Non-sequitur.
The school can enforce privacy policy on their grounds. The second that the classroom enters the students' homes, the owners of those homes set privacy policy.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:41 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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don’t see a reasonable explanation of why an adult- any adult- shouldn’t be allowed to view their sessions. What are they trying to hide?!?! What else has such little oversight that it’s “kids eyes only”!!?
They don’t want doofus helicopter parents interrupting lessons or critiquing every word. Just like they don’t want you sitting in the classroom all the time. You wouldn’t want the BLM parent sitting in every session either.
If you glance in occasionally, no big deal
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:44 am to anc
Dear Teacher:
No. I finally have an opportunity to see whether you have any idea whatsoever how to teach. I intend to take full advantage of it.
Love,
Dad
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:48 am to anc
quote:Unenforceable.
statement saying they will not observe remote classes
Where did it originate?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:51 am to anc
What state is this in?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:51 am to NC_Tigah
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Where did it originate?
Doesn't matter. By using the word "guideline" they have designated it unenforceable.
It doesn't matter if the President of the United States himself publishes a guideline. Guidelines are optional.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:55 am to anc
I would absolutely hate somebody looking over my shoulder all day and can definitely get the teachers not wanting that but I can’t believe they sent this out. I’m sure there has been some moms out there that keep interjecting and correcting and giving their opinions etc and essentially are disruptive
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:56 am to NoSaint
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They don’t want doofus helicopter parents interrupting lessons or critiquing every word. Just like they don’t want you sitting in the classroom all the time. You wouldn’t want the BLM parent sitting in every session either.
This
Posted on 8/17/20 at 11:57 am to anc
So they can be activist teachers? Lol I think remote classes may actually be a good idea since parents will know exactly what is going on.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:01 pm to anc
This is BS.
Personal info should not be discussed period.
They are implying that somehow there is privacy in the classroom. There isn’t.
There shouldn’t be anything going on in a classroom that a parent can’t hear.
Personal info should not be discussed period.
They are implying that somehow there is privacy in the classroom. There isn’t.
There shouldn’t be anything going on in a classroom that a parent can’t hear.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:01 pm to TigerAxeOK
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So our tax money pays for these educators... but we're not allowed to witness what we're paying for?
Yeah, sounds like a typical Dimocrat policy to me.
Nah they don’t want people like you disrupting class by keeping on “correcting” the teacher about how they’re indoctrinating the kids etc. Would you want an evil Dem listening in correcting the teacher all the time about how math is racist etc?
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:13 pm to NoSaint
quote:I agree that interruptions or participation shouldn’t happen but they said parents couldn’t even observe. That is the material issue.
They don’t want doofus helicopter parents interrupting lessons or critiquing every word. Just like they don’t want you sitting in the classroom all the time. You wouldn’t want the BLM parent sitting in every session either.
If you glance in occasionally, no big deal
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:21 pm to FooManChoo
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I agree that interruptions or participation shouldn’t happen but they said parents couldn’t even observe. That is the material issue.
There’s zero chance Leroy doesn’t observe and then interject. Partisanship and fighting the commie teachers indoctrination of the kids will be too great and he’ll have to, maybe not right then but firing off emails later letting the principal know what he thinks.
That said the paper is unenforceable and if you want to listen in nothing will stop you. Instead of sending it like they did they probably should have just sent a paper saying please stay out and let the kids have "classroom" time without mom or dad over their shoulders. It’s making the best out of a bad situation (distance learning).
This post was edited on 8/17/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:21 pm to anc
Bunk that sheet
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:22 pm to anc
Wouldn’t sign. I think the point is for helicopter parents to let their kids learn individually without mom standing over their shoulder telling them to do whatever. However, nothing the school can do if my kid’s computer is in our living room or study. Public schools are required to provide education. They could not refuse e-learning for the student if a parent didn’t sign.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 12:23 pm to LSUGrrrl
And they won’t. I think this is making mountains out of molehills and the paper should have been worded different
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