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re: Parents Of Uvalde Shooting Victim Start Legal Action Against Gun Manufacturer

Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19580 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:41 pm to
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I get that but are you saying it's okay for your 17 year-old son to order a gun online and wait until he is 18 to actual pay for it at a dealership? I have not read anything about the legality of that.


Are you saying that Daniel Defence should have a crystal ball to know that someone online is 17 years old when ordering a rifle? I guess you think that a 17 year old can't lie about their age. Failing to see why you are assuming Daniel Defense did anything wrong here when you have zero information to back it up.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:48 pm to
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It makes no difference. They could be 12.


So there is no law that a minor can't order a firearm then. Maybe that is what is going to be the basis of this lawsuit. Just an assumption on my part.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47867 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:52 pm to
Could think of many other things they should be suing instead of gun manufacturers BUT that's where the $$$ is.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:54 pm to
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What's the angle? The kid was of legal age and bought the firearm legally. What can the manufacturer be held liable for?


Their advertising could use an adjustment...

Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:54 pm to
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That’s like suing the knife manufacturer for a stabbing death.


Can we sue Ford or Mercedes if their vehicle is used in a fatal DUI? Can I sue the original patent holder of Fentanyl since I had a loved one die of an overdose? Better yet can I sue the Biden Administration for allowing open borders that enabled the cartels to ship the drug into the United States?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:55 pm to
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So when ordering guns online or even by phone the company doesn't ask said buyer if they are 18? Something tells me they do.


Buyers responsibility. The FFL will not transfer to an ineligible person. And the person is responsible for return shipping.
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
13033 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Ramos wasn't underage. And the delivery had to occur via a FFL.


From the initial reports, he bought that DD rifle off the shelf. The gun shop stocked the DD rifle.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19580 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Their advertising could use an adjustment...



Your brain needs adjusting but no miracle of medicine and science can fix retardation.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56147 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Failing to see why you are assuming Daniel Defense did anything wrong here when you have zero information to back it up.




I'm not but the parents might be. We'll see.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:04 pm to
Well as for as the parents who take this route. Go to your mother country.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65813 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:09 pm to
Didn’t the President say they were protected? I thought he wanted to strip the protection??? Hmmm.
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:09 pm to
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Why the fricking gun manufacturers??????


The deepest pockets within sight or sound. The next deepest pockets (the school district) is probably next.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25333 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:26 pm to
Well, they should sue the automobile brand he drove to the school, too! and the brand clothes he had on, and the bullet manufacturer, and the door manufacturer/supplier of the school., and the website he posted on,.....and so on!

And they prolly will. Rational thinking no longer exists in the world!

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:30 pm to
Car companies have to be shitting bricks right now. Could you imagine the pandoras box this case opens up if they rule against the manufacturer?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:41 pm to
Not the best advertisement I've seen, but I'm not quite sure what that has to do with anything?
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Car companies have to be shitting bricks right now. Could you imagine the pandoras box this case opens up if they rule against the manufacturer?


Suing a car company was tried in North Alabama long ago. I remember the suit, and that the plaintiff lost, or perhaps the case was dismissed. This was around the time I graduated from Florence State (Now University of North Alabama), in 1961.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
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Suing a car company was tried in North Alabama long ago. I remember the suit, and that the plaintiff lost, or perhaps the case was dismissed.. It was probably 40 - 60 years ago.


If a group of people successfully sue a manufacturer who's product did not fail, do you think that doesn't leak into other lines of product?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42472 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:04 pm to
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No he didn't.
The suit was for $73 million. Settlement was reached out-of-court with an insurance firm for an undisclosed sum. Definitely NOT $73 million.



You're right!!

That whole settlement story is bullshite...

Remington didn't pay shite or agree to settle.

These people aren't going to get shite out of DD.

https://www.theblaze.com/shows/the-glenn-beck-program/remington-sandy-hook-settlement?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

Our media is soooo full of shite!

Remington is bankrupt (not from this) and the insurance company agreed to settle. It was all a scam.
This post was edited on 6/4/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42472 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:19 pm to
More about the $73 million Remington "settlement" and probably what this attorney is up to.

quote:

The announcement on Tuesday that Remington Arms had finally settled (some used the words “claimed liability” for) the seven-year-old lawsuit filed by parents of children lost in the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012 was portrayed as a major breakthrough by the anti-gun major media. The settlement, wrote the New York Times, “is a significant setback to the firearms industry.”

No, it is not. The Times explained why: “The lawsuit worked around the federal law [Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, or PLCAA] protecting gun companies from litigation by arguing that the manufacturer’s marketing of the weapon had violated Connecticut consumer law.”

That’s why the lawsuit has meandered through the court system for seven long years: the plaintiffs had no case. It was the Supreme Court that refused to hear the case on appeal from Connecticut’s Supreme Court, thus allowing the case to proceed. Finally, in exhaustion and not admission of guilt, the settlement was made.

Originally the parents wanted $225 million. But Remington was in bankruptcy and the only asset it had was its insurance coverage from four different insurance companies, which just happened to be the amount of the $73 million settlement.


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The Connecticut law involved in the “workaround” is the state’s Unfair Trade Practices Act. Its meaning had to be expanded to include marketing practices that the left-wing state Supreme Court considered illegal: Remington pointed its ads to young men, its most profitable target market. Some of those young men included mentally unbalanced people such as Adam Lanza who saturated his mind with video games that involved firearms.

As John Lott, head of the Crime Prevention Research Center, wrote in USA Today: “There is no evidence that the ads influenced the actions of the Sandy Hook killer.” In fact, Lanza didn’t even purchase the firearms used in the shooting: he stole them from his mother.


https://ttipwatch.net/remingtons-insurance-carriers-forced-remington-to-settle-with-sandy-hook-victims-families-paying-them-73-million/
This attorney is trying this strategy again.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4954 posts
Posted on 6/4/22 at 6:20 pm to
The lawyers are probably elated some kids got shot up. After sandy hook, they probably sat around chomping at the bit for this. Sick perverts.
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