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re: Our President tweets about the Cohen Tapes

Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:38 am to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:38 am to
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Sometimes, but I do not have to since LA is a one party state.



Just because you do not "have to" does not absolve you of being the slime that plagues your profession if you do not.


If you record your client (surreptitiously) because you think he going to bring a charge against you to the Bar Assoc.....then you have clients nearly as sleazy as you seem to be.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:38 am to
And there's not a day that goes by that I don't laugh about geauxjudge.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:40 am to
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Sometimes


So someone is paying you to be honest towards him with your advice and you record him without telling him? You would be my ex lawyer if I were in that client's shoes.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:40 am to
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there is not a day that goes by that I do not consider an ethical issue. I like to keep my license.



EVERY "licensed" professional has an ETHICS requirement. Engineers have to record clients (without thier knowledge)?


Doctors?


Pharmacists?



This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 8:41 am
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:42 am to
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Oh lord, what does Trump know?


quote:

Everything


Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:45 am to
If you don't like the fact that lawyers record conversations, then have the law changed. If you don't like it because it's hurting Trump here, then take off your blinders. You guys are making this out to be worse than it is.

quote:

Engineers have to record clients (without thier knowledge)?


No but they are allowed to under the law to protect their own interests or document a conversation.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:47 am to
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And there's not a day that goes by that I don't laugh about geauxjudge.


good. that dude was scum and violated the judicial rules of conduct. also that case had nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:49 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:53 am
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:50 am to
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If you don't like it because it's hurting Trump here,





I don't worry about Trump. He will do just fine without my concern. I like his policies, dislike his brash, boorish thin skin nature. Disagree with a lot of approaches. Don't think his character is all that great. Voted for him because he was NOT HRC. If things stay the same...I'll vote for him again because I do like the actual direction and policy ideas.


quote:

If you don't like the fact that lawyers record conversations, then have the law changed.


yeeesh. I don't need a law to make my attorney be a decent dude. I'll hire a decent dude to be my attorney.


quote:

No but they are allowed to under the law to protect their own interests or document a conversation.


Again...ALLOWED to. I have ZERO problem if you say to me "I am recording our conversations to protect myself AND to be absolutely clear of your wishes / our decisions on this call (or, in this meeting)


The way YOU do it is to be my enemy from the jump. Slimy.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:56 am to
quote:

you're an angry little guy


so stating facts is now angry? Show me where I'm angry.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:00 am to
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The way YOU do it is to be my enemy from the jump. Slimy.


so protecting my livelihood is now slimy? got it.

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:02 am to
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In another thread, it said that Trump gave permission for the tape to be released? What's the truth?




If I understand it correctly since there is no evidence of illegalities in the tape it's still covered by attorney-client privilege but that Trump waived that (which means that after judicial review the tapes could be released).

At least that's my understanding so take that for what it's worth.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:02 am to
I'm of the opinion that Trump and Michael Cohen were tipped off before the FBI raid and only the best information was left for Mueller.

And that fire at Trump Tower...yeah that was before the Mueller raid on Michael Cohen.

Think.

As Q would say, the future proves the past (or something like that).
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:04 am to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:53 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Tons of attorneys record their clients for various reasons.


Wut?
Posted by Big_Slim
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:08 am to
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STFU. there is not a day that goes by that I do not consider an ethical issue. I like to keep my license.

Read the Rules of Professional conduct and tell me they are not strict.


Lawyers are the scum of the earth and one the biggest reasons society is so fricking lame now. The fact that you can operate in Louisiana and insist there is some noble ethics code they adhere too is laughable. Legal /=ethical

Some of the stupidest people I've ever met have gotten through law school no problem btw

ETA: FTR, I'm obviously not insinuating that the ethics code you referred to doesn't exist, merely that there are a lot of lawyers operating within that code who are complete POS
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 9:10 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:11 am to
If this was not pre-planned between Trump and Cohen to set up Mueller and Cohen recorded the conversation between him and Trump without Trump's permission his law career is over.

No one would what to hire that guy after breaking basic trust between lawyer and client. Very damaging.
Posted by oleheat
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:14 am to
After listening to the actual recording, I LOL'd.

THIS was "Breaking News"? Even CBS News was forced to admit there's nothing there. That says a lot.

Trump is going to have a field day with this, IMHO- and Cohen will likely be ruined, as an atty.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Tons of attorneys record their clients for various reasons.


If those recording are manipulated, like being abruptly cut off, or stacked in a manner to create a narrative, isn't that a violation of law?
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:37 am to
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Read the Rules of Professional conduct and tell me they are not strict.




It doesn't matter how strict they are if they aren't enforced.
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