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re: Our 2nd amendment right is the biggest reason this doesn't happen in the US.

Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73258 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:24 pm to
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No there aren’t.


There absolutely are.

Hell, my neighborhood is probably one of them.
Posted by RustyDaDog
BAOK
Member since Mar 2023
508 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:39 pm to
1.5% of Israeli civilians own firearms, so reservists might have fought back, probably not civilians though.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:55 pm to
No it’s not, they had strict gun control which they decided to relax after these attacks.
Posted by Guetteur
Member since Sep 2023
149 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:56 pm to
Wishful thinking. The real reason is that we used to be a strong and respected country and that we benefit from oceans on 2 flanks which make invasion difficult, certainly moreso than European countries. Of course, with the complicity of our leaders, the southern border appears to be under invasion so we are entering uncharted waters.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 4:59 pm to
Nah. Hems not wrong. He never said no one would die here… but they wouldn’t get as many of us and they would have paid with more of their piece of shite terrorist lives. 100%
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73258 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 6:16 pm to
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Trained operators still sleep at night.


I thought it was 6:30 AM and 50 dudes on the street? Now it's a dozen dudes coming directly for my house in the middle of the night?

Make up your mind with this fantasy, my dude.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:49 pm to
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Make up your mind with this fantasy, my dude


I think you're one to talk about fantasy. I'm not too surprised the guy is matching fantasy with fantasy.

Your mythical street filled with Rambos. Your street inhabitants can take on 50 insurgents while they're asleep ...

This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 8:51 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73258 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:07 pm to
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while they're asleep


You do know there are people who are awake well before 6:30, right?
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:50 pm to
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You do know there are people who are awake well before 6:30, right?



In this fantasy of yours, I'm sure everyone is awake at all times. Let's make it so.

Doesn't matter the time, right?

Whether it's 1am, 2am, 3am, 6:30am or 10, 50, 100, 1000 insurgents in this fantasy, your street will take on them all.
This post was edited on 10/11/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
4965 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:44 am to
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Also - I seem to recall just a few years ago China unleashing a government created biological weapon on the United States. How did you and your gun protect us then??


frick you dude.... Your democratic friends were in on the Covid release with China so they could steal the election. But they could either go out shopping or looting but not go to vote with an ID!

Guns were still protecting us as we dealt with the Covid/Flu invasion
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:07 am to
Canada and Mexico not hating us is probably the #1 factor.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73258 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:23 am to
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In this fantasy of yours


I'm not the one who started talking about 50 dudes dropping from the sky into some random American neighborhood, guy.

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I'm sure everyone is awake at all times. Let's make it so.


Nope, but there are people who wake up before 6:30 AM...

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Doesn't matter the time, right?


Sure. It's your fantasy about why the Second Amendment doesn't matter.

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Whether it's 1am, 2am, 3am, 6:30am or 10, 50, 100, 1000 insurgents in this fantasy, your street will take on them all.


That you think that's what would need happen is why you're in no way qualified to even tall about this, sport.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27920 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:42 am to
Also, Don't build your house next to 2 million people, most of whom would love to kill you. In which case your AR 15, Uzi and 9mm are minimally effective.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5117 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:48 am to
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Imagine the Las Vegas mass shooting in every major city at the same time.


Would this have happened on the scale it did if people had bothered to fight back? The problem, during that barrage, was that no citizen fought back, and the police showed up at his door 42 minutes after the shooting started, and 29 minutes after he had already killed himself.

Same story Parkland, Uvalde, Columbine, on and on and on
Posted by AirForceDad76
Member since Oct 2023
21 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:54 am to
It’s exactly WHY the gun grabbing leftist asswipes continue to harp on RIFLES to be banned despite their extremely low involvement in any type of actual gun violence. Pistols (mainly illegally purchased or stolen pistols for that matter) are used for the majority of actual gun violence in the United States. Break it down even further and it’s one particular subset of demographic that are the real culprits responsible….but no one wants to actually talk about that, right?

RIFLES are needed to project power from distances. They know this and that’s why they are so desperate to take ours. That’s why when you see the US giving arms to some group overseas to fight against another faction, they are always RIFLES…not pistols.

To the genius in the comments stating that “your guns won’t protect you against nuclear weapons or biological warfare, etc…” No shite Sherlock. But they ARE a huge deterrent against an invading army that thinks about rolling up in here with boots on the ground trying to subdue the population.
Look how poorly the US fared in Iraq and Afghanistan trying to just play policeman with the local population (who all had access to small arms). And reprisal killings don’t work either…they only incite hatred and revenge against the occupying forces.
This nation is too vast with too many people of too many different backgrounds armed with too many weapons to successfully invade and subjugate. Land mass, harsh weather conditions and population is why invading Russia has always failed, even when you go scorched earth.

Also, one fails to realize that during the course of this so-called invasion …American guerrillas WILL take down opposing enemies ammo dumps and foot patrols; taking THEIR weapons and using them against the occupying army (this includes scenarios where the American army has been turned against the citizens, too).
There are A LOT of veterans WITH recent combat experience in the past 20-30 years out here in civilian life. Vets that know how to use tanks, F-16s, Apaches, and other weapons once they are captured. Vets that can show others how to use them and train them up. Lotta officers and NCOs still out here healthy in civilian life.
Hitler made the mistake thinking that Americans were a bunch of soft weak people who would cower in fear based off what he saw in the media.

If you put our way of life at stake , removed our comfort level, and legit threatened our families-
you’d find out REALLY QUICK that there are still a ton of savages here that will end you. I’m saying this an Army veteran myself who is still in tremendous shape for being 46. We’re not the weak arse people you think we are because the trannys and the freaks in uniform get all the attention lately.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5117 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 6:59 am to
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People seem to have forgotten the chaos two Tsarnov dudes caused in Boston. City was paralyzed for a couple of days while the manhunt went on.


True, but people watch, and learn. What they learned from that episode is that .gov can lock a city down and send 2000 armed officers to find one teenager hiding 3 blocks from his shooting spree, for two full days, find nothing then give up and go home. They learned .gov is useless when it comes to defending you, so that task is on you.

Many learned the same thing watching .gov handle school shootings, so many - in spite of it being illegal - carry at school, or work, or at Starbucks.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7418 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 12:32 pm to
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he problem, during that barrage, was that no citizen fought back, and the police showed up at his door 42 minutes after the shooting started, and 29 minutes after he had already killed himself.


In the Vegas shooting, It would have been difficult for anyone in the crowd on the ground to fight back from where he was positioned. Even if someone located him and had a rifle they would be shooting back into a hotel endangering other people. The cops were actually on his floor about 10 minutes after the shooting starts and stopped so they arent going to allow civilians to just storm his room.

Now in the other cases yea but in the heat of the moment, without training, most people are just going to try to get the hell out of the situation especially if they are with loved ones and its a public space.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:47 am to
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I'm not the one who started talking about 50 dudes dropping from the sky into some random American neighborhood, guy.


'Sport', it sounds like you were the one suggesting your street could take on a group of insurgents in the dead of night.

Someone presented you with a scenario and you responded in the affirmative that your street would be able to. That's your imagination talking - that's the definition of a fantasy.

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Nope, but there are people who wake up before 6:30 AM...


No shite.

That doesn't change this bizarre Rambo fantasy of yours.

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Sure. It's your fantasy about why the Second Amendment doesn't matter.


Great argument.

You're conflating two separate things here. I'm talking about the notion that your street would be able to take on a group of insurgents. Beyond stupid.

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That you think that's what would need happen is why you're in no way qualified to even tall about this, sport.




Brilliant. How would I 'tall' about it? My guy, you can barely spell 'talk' without typos and you're now correcting me on how it would happen?

You can barely type correctly and now this mythical street of yours could take on insurgents.

This is satire at its finest.

How would it happen then?
This post was edited on 10/14/23 at 6:51 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20495 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:51 am to
what the frick? Triggered by gun ownership huh?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20495 posts
Posted on 10/14/23 at 6:54 am to
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Your mythical street filled with Rambos. Your street inhabitants can take on 50 insurgents while they're asleep ...
I would you pussy bitch, some of us are ready for this shite. I'd prob save your worthless life too.
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