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re: Oregon sent 60 FireTrucks to Cali, they are being held in Sacramento for emissions testing
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:38 pm to baldona
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:38 pm to baldona
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Are you really this stupid? You think when there’s a hurricane that Louisiana and Florida DOT are out there inspecting every power truck brought in and working?
do you think any guy with a bucket truck can show up and start pulling lines?
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:40 pm to beaux duke
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so some guys in an out of state firetruck roll up to the barricade and you just wave them on through, no questions asked?
Yep, exactly. Damn you are ignorant.
You really think guys just tried to drive in without calling anyone? I’m sure fire chiefs or whoever coordinates had 0 conversations here. Same with the planes. Before departing, hell, planes probably didn’t even file a flight plan they just took off hoping to help….
Stop making shite up to help protect these idiots. These states work together all the time to help each other out when these fires happen.
It’s no different than like I said, the utility companies sending in crews to fix power lines after a hurricane.
Except instead of trying to speed things up, California slowed it down. Again.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:41 pm to beaux duke
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do you think any guy with a bucket truck can show up and start pulling lines?
Wow you really are dense. You realize it was Oregon FD trucks right?
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:41 pm to Smeg
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These are operating trucks currently in service in the state of Oregon.
Perhaps in the future states can have standing orders for reciprocity in these matters. There has to be a way to cut the red tape in big emergencies.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:44 pm to NineLineBind
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Perhaps in the future states can have standing orders for reciprocity in these matters. There has to be a way to cut the red tape in big emergencies.
I can’t speak for fires as they generally can’t be as planned. But I’m sure there’s still plenty of planning and training that goes into place.
For power line repairs, I knew someone pretty high up for gulf power that was in charge of a bunch of crews.
They have plans, training, etc for natural disasters. Of course there is a plan in place for a fire. If there’s not, holy hell that’s a major fricking problem in and of itself.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:50 pm to baldona
can you elaborate on your experience with this type of event?
of course they do. if im ic, i still want my guy to sign off that this truck and crew are fit for service
verifying an individual firefighters credentials and inspecting their personal gear is way easier than a pumper truck
do you think the power companies just let anyone with a bucket truck show up and just drive right in, start working?
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You really think guys just tried to drive in without calling anyone? I’m sure fire chiefs or whoever coordinates had 0 conversations here.
of course they do. if im ic, i still want my guy to sign off that this truck and crew are fit for service
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Same with the planes. Before departing, hell, planes probably didn’t even file a flight plan they just took off hoping to help
verifying an individual firefighters credentials and inspecting their personal gear is way easier than a pumper truck
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It’s no different than like I said, the utility companies sending in crews to fix power lines after a hurricane.
do you think the power companies just let anyone with a bucket truck show up and just drive right in, start working?
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:55 pm to baldona
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Wow you really are dense. You realize it was Oregon FD trucks right?
sure. do you think every truck in the Oregon fleet is equipped for the task at hand? i would assume Oregon fd would send only their best but if im the incident commander for what will be an historic fire dissected for decades...youre goddamn right i want one of my guys signing off saying this truck and crew are good to go
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:56 pm to Warrior Court
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it doesn't matter - this is the problem when the Internet got out to the rural uneducated communities.
Oh, you're one of those idiots. In a thread about the failures of one of the biggest cities in the country, you think rural people are the problem. It's not rural people creating the worst shitholes to live in, dumbass. It's not rural people spamming TikTok and X with stupidity. It's not rural people spreading lies with the authority of the media and telling us it's their job to tell us how to think. It's not rural people committing lawfare. It's not rural people arresting political opponents.
The rural folk vote red, the city folk vote blue. But sure, the problem is rural people. Critical thinking is clearly not in your wheelhouse.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:00 pm to Sam Quint
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Who got blacklisted or fired for the Trump collusion or Hunter laptop stuff?
Who has gotten blacklisted in recent memory after getting caught blatantly lying in their reporting on conservatives?
A lot of what happened to reporters during the Russia collusion thing was that they put too much faith in the Steele Dossier and also too much faith in many of their sources, who led them astray on purpose.
I still think that many people would be surprised at how often reporters are fired.. The whole "fake news" and "reporters just making stuff up out of thin air" is naive and ignorant. When it happens, it's because they didn't do a better job of vetting their sources and putting too much faith in a source.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/27/three-cnn-journalists-resign-over-retracted-trump-russia-story
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:00 pm to baldona
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They have plans, training, etc for natural disasters. Of course there is a plan in place for a fire. If there’s not, holy hell that’s a major fricking problem in and of itself.
there is. and its going to involve out of area crews checking in. again, at the very least they want to brief your crew on the situation and your mission. this is fema 101
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:57 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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The whole "fake news" and "reporters just making stuff up out of thin air" is naive and ignorant.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:00 am to Zip it blondie
Gavin Newsome says this is 100% misinformation
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:01 am to Smeg
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Because the trucks were fine in Oregon. Then held up for a day because some a-hole wants to measure the break pad thickness and check tire pressure
Agreed. The fire trucks weren't owned by private citizens, they were certified fire trucks in another state! They should NOT have to spend a day being inspected. Ridiculous.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:12 am to beaux duke
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its not needless. again, no incident commander is going to let any unknown truck onto their scene. once that truck and crew enter the scene, they're the ic's responsibility. this isn't a difficult concept to grasp. well, maybe
You are one gullible, obtuse lefty moron I see!!
They are fricking coming from the greenest most liberal state in OUR nation(Oregon) they aren’t coming from fricking Tijuana, Mexico!
They have the same federal standards in Oregon as they do in kalifornia! Stop with the bullshite!
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:25 am to lake chuck fan
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Agreed. The fire trucks weren't owned by private citizens, they were certified fire trucks in another state! They should NOT have to spend a day being inspected. Ridiculous.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:28 am to Zip it blondie
You see...that was false.
They were held up for inspections (because, apparently, Oregon firetrucks are shite compared to Cali fire trucks), not for emissions testing.
They were held up for inspections (because, apparently, Oregon firetrucks are shite compared to Cali fire trucks), not for emissions testing.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:28 am to Zip it blondie
It would seem that if they got as far as zsacramento, the emissions issue is a moot issue.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:28 am to Big Scrub TX
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Correct. Why are you acting like that's not a relevant distinction?
You idiots believe any random a-hole on X...while simultaneously looking down your nose at the left for doing the same kind of thing.
Because you don’t turn away help in the middle of a disaster over red tape bullshite like that. It doesn’t matter what the testing was for. Another state sent their own resources and they were held up while lives and property were in danger.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:35 am to Zip it blondie
Just tell them all the firefighters are gay, they will waive the emissions requirements.
Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:48 am to LSUGrrrl
A wild fire is burning cities in California. Help is offered to help stop the fires but is held up by bureaucratic red tape.
It’s fascinating to read how the Liberals on this board are defending this delay in aid coming by splitting hairs with the verbiage used to describe the delay. Like the “fact checkers” calling a report false or partly false-“he didn’t withhold 17 million, it was 17.5 million, so the report is false.”
Whether it’s emissions testing, or “inspections”, which probably includes some form of emissions testing, you don’t hold up help in an emergency for this stuff- not when people’s lives are at stake.
But, if you look at the FEMA response in NC, then this incident falls in line with the incompetence that we’ve come to live with from Democrat run governments. Hopefully, we can fix this moving forward.
It’s fascinating to read how the Liberals on this board are defending this delay in aid coming by splitting hairs with the verbiage used to describe the delay. Like the “fact checkers” calling a report false or partly false-“he didn’t withhold 17 million, it was 17.5 million, so the report is false.”
Whether it’s emissions testing, or “inspections”, which probably includes some form of emissions testing, you don’t hold up help in an emergency for this stuff- not when people’s lives are at stake.
But, if you look at the FEMA response in NC, then this incident falls in line with the incompetence that we’ve come to live with from Democrat run governments. Hopefully, we can fix this moving forward.
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