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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:24 am to BCreed1
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When the economic reality hit us over the next 2 years, they will 100% forget what Biden did in 2023 and 2024. They will pay a small lip service to slightly mention Biden, but it will all be due to Trump from 2016-2020 and Trump's 2025/26.
Naw.
Intellectual consistency does that.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:26 am to the808bass
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This is the response of a bitch. Quit being a bitch.
Nah. It's the truth. You know it too.
Here is what NA posted. And not a single response. to address what was stated. None.
Maybe you will???
quote:
(A) There is no "fit" being thrown.
(B) The Debt Limit has never once, EVER, in the history of the US, limited debt. Not once! So your assertion that Trump "doesn't want to be limited on debt," is so TDS-riddled that it rivals Whoopi Goldberg level logic.
(C) The only thing the Debt Limit is good for is empowering the minority negotiating stakeholder vis-a-vis threatened government shutdown in negotiations.
(D) In March, guess who the minority stakeholders are.
(E) Schumer's stooge, Chip Roy, gave Dems not only that lever, but also a bite at new budget negotiations along with it.
Why? You know why. They are not here to have a discussion be it in agreement or disagreement.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:NO!
Just so we are clear, the Debt is not a problem with MAGA going forward.
Just so we are clear, the Debt Limit will do nothing to reduce debt.
The Debt Limit never has reduced debt.
The Debt Limit never will reduce debt.
Those things will be done via the budget, if they are done at all.
Are we clear?
The Debt Limit is a lever the minority stakeholder can use to force budget talks and get more than the minority might have otherwise gotten.
¿Comprende?
The Debt Limit will be raised in the Spring.
Debt and Deficits will continue if there is desire to continue with them.
But Chip Roy's blithering stupidity gives Dems leverage to stall out the Trump agenda, and spend more money. That is a major problem with MAGA going forward.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:30 am to BCreed1
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They are not here to have a discussion be it in agreement or disagreement.
Neither are you. Youre here to fight off anyone who criticizes anything Trump says.
You have no ideology.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:31 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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We just elected Trump in grand fashion to implement his policy. We didn't elect congressmen to block his agenda.
So, you want a post-fire Reichstag instead of a Democratic Republic.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:31 am to AUCom96
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Trump was elected last time to build a wall. He tried. The GOP majority congress stymied him, even though they claimed they supported the issue.
Why should congress get involved? Mexico was going to pay for it.
Maybe live up to your campaign promises.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:34 am to NC_Tigah
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Just so we are clear, the Debt Limit will do nothing to reduce debt.
The Debt Limit never has reduced debt.
The Debt Limit never will reduce debt.
Those things will be done via the budget, if they are done at all.
Are we clear?
Yet it cost McCarthy his job and turned yall against Johnson, prior to Trump supporting the CR.
It is a control. Yes, it will keep big spenders from going too far.
Trump is a HUGE spender. He absolutely needs hawks on his arse to keep him in line.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:34 am to BugAC
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Euorocat
I find it ironic that a poster that has spent so much time pushing for Democrats in the past, is so concerned with our debt.
I, for one, welcome our newfound cadre of converted “fiscally conservative Republican” commies like Eurocat, BayouBlitz, and that Nawlins dude.
I refuse to look at it as anything but a positive. Hey, whatever it takes.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Sorry. That is nothing but a disrelated association looking for a name. If tax cuts are progressive, when was the last time progs proposed tax cuts? If tax cuts are progressive, when is the last time progs supported tax cuts?
With added spending, yes. Its called Modern Monetary Theory.
Right?
And now you know that the weasel tossing out the concept that tax cuts are progressive is one silly goose.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:36 am to AUauditor
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So, you want a post-fire Reichstag instead of a Democratic Republic.
Most of these guys could use a remedial Civics lesson.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:37 am to NC_Tigah
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With added spending, yes. Its called Modern Monetary Theory.
Sorry. That is nothing but a disrelated association looking for a name.
Wrong, Progressive.
Youre desperately trying to distance yourself from this objective fact.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:39 am to NC_Tigah
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That is nothing but a disrelated association looking for a name.
Do you think tax cuts with increased spending is conservative? Because it isn’t.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:40 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I, for one, welcome our newfound cadre of converted “fiscally conservative Republican” commies like Eurocat, BayouBlitz, and that Nawlins dude.
Yes. Seeing those figs advocate for fiscal conservatism is like watching Bruce Jenner advocate for traditional gender roles.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:40 am to Eurocat
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Americans should realize that the majority of our leaders ought to be tossed regardless of our partisan sensibilities.
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What's the problem?
Starting with Ronnie in 1980, BOTH sides have spending money they did not have
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:41 am to NC_Tigah
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And now you know that the weasel tossing out the concept that tax cuts are progressive is one silly goose.
When you add it to vastly increased spending, its Progressive. MMT is a real thing.
This is how partly why he pushed so much debt on us prior to Covid.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I don't care about apostrophes, but you are quite careless with your pronouns.
Yet it cost McCarthy his job and turned yall against Johnson, prior to Trump supporting the CR.
What specifically cost KM his job?
Try to be honest here. Don't look silly.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:42 am to BCreed1
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Why? You know why. They are not here to have a discussion be it in agreement or disagreement.
So you think Chip Roy is only now advocating for reduced government spending. And you’re retarded. Got it.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:46 am to NC_Tigah
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I don't care about apostrophes
Or conservative policy.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:NO!
When you add it to vastly increased spending, its Progressive. MMT is a real thing.
Vastly increased spending may be progressive. Deregulation, decreased taxes, etc. are not.
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