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re: One in the chamber or not?

Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:06 am to
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
4097 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:06 am to
Secured in a quality holster the gun will not fire itself. Learn and practice your draw stroke. Pay attention to returning to the holster. An assailant inside 30 ft can reach you faster than you realize. That second to chamber a round may very well not exist. All of this being said, I was just like you when I started. It takes time to adjust to the idea for some. Seek more training.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50990 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:07 am to
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What kind of safety(s) does it have? My Springfield XD9sc has 2, trigger and grip safeties. I have no qualms carrying with the gun in battery.
The P365XL and P365 do not have a safety.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:07 am to
One in the chamber. My only exception is a pump shotgun
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:09 am to
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on the console while driving for handguns.


Secured on the console or laying there? The reason I ask is because what happens to the firearm if you are involved in a wreck?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39941 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:09 am to
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One in the chamber or not?


This is my set up.





Chambered. Then transferred to IWB (Black Arch Holsters). Get an IWB that has Kydex protecting the trigger.



My gun, Springfield XD-S has a grip safety - must be engaged in order to activate trigger.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 7:16 am
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14301 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:11 am to
Agree with you except “clear the round, pop the magazine out”.
Remove mag, THEN clear round.

It may be a nit I pick, but if you release the slide with the mag in you just rechambered.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6359 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:12 am to
One thing that might get you more comfortable is to practice like the instructor said. But maybe carry a pistol that is a double action first pull and then single action after that.

That pull on the trigger for the 1st round is like a revolver.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39941 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:12 am to
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The Maj


Did you drill into steering wheel column? I tried the very best tape I could find, cleaned with alcohol before applying and both times, I found my pistol on the floor board a few days later.

I suspect it was due to the heat inside my vehicle when off.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:15 am to
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I suspect it was due to the heat inside my vehicle when off.


I switched to magnets drilled in. Just use the tape to hold in place while the screws are put in. More economical and you don't have to waste a decent rig if you have multiple vehicles.

That tape doesn't work in the south with the heat.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39941 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:17 am to
Yes, I agree. I was reluctant to drill into my vehicle as it is still new. I chose a different option from Gum Creek Holsters. See pictures above.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13995 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:19 am to
I always have one in the chamber and I appendix carry.

You do not have time to load a round in a life or death situation in nearly all conceal carry situations.

Don't believe me? Go watch the active self protection channel on YouTube.

You'll never carry without a round in the chamber after watching a few of his videos.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9060 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:20 am to
Not only one in the chamber. But I had this conversation with an Officer. After recalling an incident in St Petersburg, Fl.

Black Kid broke into a Condo. Elderly couple arrived from grocery store. Wife in first, husband carrying groceries. Black Kid attacked the wife, husband dropped the groceries, got his gun and put two into the perp. Laid the gun on the floor and went to care for his wife. Kid woke, picked up the gun and put one into the back of the husbands head.

Cop told me ..."Whatever is in your magazine ....put them all into the attacker. When questioned your response is...In the excitement and stress of the situation, I fired until the gun would fire no more."
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:21 am to
How do you do it today as a LEO? God bless you man but I just don’t see how you do it.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:22 am to
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I was reluctant to drill into my vehicle as it is still new.


Yeah. Nothing wrong with you option it is what is most comfortable, kinda like which holster or style/type of carry. I prefer my firearm to be next to my right leg where it is hidden from view and a more natural motion if needed.

I will leave the magnet when I get rid of the vehicle, so drilling doesn't bother me.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17694 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:22 am to
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The P365XL and P365 do not have a safety.


Did you go with base model? Those along with the P320 are nice.

M17 variant has an external thumb safety and longer barrel, but wouldn’t be as ideal to carry.
Posted by Cincinnati Tiigre
Cincinnati
Member since Nov 2015
1404 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:23 am to
I don’t understand why this is a concern with today’s double action automatics. I get the concern with the “cocked and locked” scenario in the 1911 single action scenario but the chance for an unintentional discharge with a chambered round in a double action auto with the hammer down is essentially zero.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25851 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:25 am to
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and could care less what others think


Then why don't you?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:27 am to
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There have been test done and a man can make it to you from 20 ft before you can draw and aim.
Justified TV series comes to mind.

Raylan, US Marshal, is after the Crowe family of brothers. Middle brother is obsessed with "21 Foot Rule". Pulls his knife and charges a couple people. Successful against a couple people until he tries the Marshal.

YouTube 1:17 video
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50990 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:28 am to
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Did you go with base model? Those along with the P320 are nice.
I have the XL variant with the TLR-6 Light and red laser.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48189 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:32 am to
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You’re not pulling unless life is on the line.


/\ THIS /\ is my mantra - will never pull to threaten.

But - I carry a 357 magnum revolver - 5 shots - cylinder full.

I also have a 40 cal semi-auto, but I keep that at home. My fear with using that as my carry weapon, when I got home, I'd probably pop the magazine out - and IF DISTRACTED at the time MAY leave the one in the chamber. I feel that at home I would have a few seconds to retrieve and arm the weapon - don't expect to wake-up instantaneously to a life threatening situation.

Out in public, if I see a threat develop, I will mentally prepare for a defense response, but will not produce my weapon until there is no other choice. If I pull it out in that situation I fully intend to shoot within a second. Don't want any unnecessary activity that will slow that down. At home, I figure I will have several seconds to retrieve, arm, and have it ready while I ponder if I need to shoot or not.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 7:34 am
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