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re: One has to suspend all logic to be a Liberal

Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:37 am to
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You are to believe the big lie of "stolen" elections.


I believe that incredibly fast and loose covid mail in voting schemes paired with horribly unmanaged voter rolls gave dems the avenue to pack the battleground states with enough votes to put them over the top. It didnt take all that much. Now, if you want to argue whether or not those were all legal votes, we'd be left to argue, since these "rules" left no actionable mechanism to validate any of it.

This cant really be argued.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:50 am to
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I don't understand why people repeat this rubbish.


Because there was zero enthusiasm for Joe, who couldn’t fill a high school gym, but he somehow garnered 81 million votes.
It would be like a band not being able to fill the Texas club, but then going platinum a few weeks later.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 9:52 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:54 am to
yep. Take Georgia for example.

He didnt campaign there, then inexplicably showed up on the eve of the election for an event where maybe 40-50 people showed up. He won the state by a narrow margin.

Later, the Atl surveillance footage pops up of rampant drop box stuffing. Dems can simply pretend that this was all family ballot drops, but that assumption defies logic and the "systems" in place leave no method to verify the integrity of those votes.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:56 am to
Muh rallies! Muh yard signs! Muh bellwethers!
MUH KRAKENS!!!!!!!!
Yet there is nothing offered that isn't laughed out of court rooms.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:00 am to
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Yet there is nothing offered that isn't laughed out of court rooms.


That's not true. The reality is, there is no way to validate any of it in court, even if there was the political will to do it. That isn't an accident. There's new surveillance video out from Detroit showing all the same stuff that was being done in Atl. Anyone with a brain knows what it is, but there's no way to prove it because the ruled were set in a way to make it unprovable.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:05 am to
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Yet there is nothing offered that isn't laughed out of court rooms.



The changes made in the voting laws by many states prior to the election were unconstitutional and illegal in many instances. Because courts or judges chose to not pursue cases or claim lack of standing, doesn’t mean there wasn’t wrong doing.
Even Dems admit there was fraud, they simply write it off as not wide spread.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:05 am to
LMFAO.....man ya'll must have twelve pounds of tin foil on your heads to believe that bullshite.
I know yall WANT SO BADLY to believe it happened. But it didn't. Like the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59455 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:06 am to
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LMFAO.....man ya'll must have twelve pounds of tin foil on your heads to believe that bullshite. I know yall WANT SO BADLY to believe it happened. But it didn't. Like the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny.


Your beef is with The Supreme Court of Wisconsin
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:09 am to
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The changes made in the voting laws by many states prior to the election were unconstitutional and illegal in many instances.


And Republicans in some of those states were all on board with it until they weren't
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9349 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:10 am to
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Because there was zero enthusiasm for Joe, who couldn’t fill a high school gym, but he somehow garnered 81 million votes.
It would be like a band not being able to fill the Texas club, but then going platinum a few weeks later.


They werent voting for Biden, they were voting to get rid of Trump.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59455 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:12 am to
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And Republicans in some of those states were all on board with it until they weren't


Whether true or not, that is not relevant to the legality and/or constitutionality. Not sure why you would post that?
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 10:14 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:12 am to
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They werent voting for Biden, they were voting to get rid of Trump.


Not buying it. The hatred towards one man doesn’t motivate 81 million voters
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59455 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:13 am to
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They werent voting for Biden, they were voting to get rid of Trump.


you prove the OPs point. Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. What you claim is a near statistical impossibility.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57819 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:13 am to
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somehow you ignore the mail. many states only count the mail after voting ends.


How is it possible that only the "swing states" had problems with counting mail in ballots? Weird coincidence, eh prog?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:14 am to
are you immediately upvoting your own posts? LOL

I digress. You cant escape the major anomalies. You cant ignore that Biden's entire MOV was on covid mail ins. You can't dismiss the timing of the counts. Further, you can pretend that all those people on video were just dropping off dozens of ballots for their family members, then coming back with dozens more.

You can choose to ignore them, but you can't pretend they didnt happen. A reasonable person might chalk this election up since it can never actually be verified, then support serious reform for the future, but you are clearly not a reasonable person. The issue for you comes when Republicans start to do this stuff too - and inevitably do it better than dems. Will you demand demand justice then?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:15 am to
and coincidentally waited until in person voting was closed and counted to reveal mail-in totals that happen to put Joe over the top.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57819 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:16 am to
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One has to suspend all logic to be a Liberal



One has to be a willing slave to be a liberal. Imagine any human, thinking America today, is the ideal goal for America.

Celticdog, imagine the increase in crime, inflation, homelessness, taxes, joblessness, and saying, "yep, this was the right move". Imagine voting for pedophiles because they tell you to vote for them, and then somehow proclaiming you have the moral high ground.

All liberals are scum.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298813 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:17 am to
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I don't understand why people repeat this rubbish.


Because Joe Biden is extremely unpopular among the sane.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47560 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:17 am to
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you prove the OPs point. Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. What you claim is a near statistical impossibility.


Not only that, but he ate into 2016 dem majorities with blacks, asians, and hispanics.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:20 am to
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you prove the OPs point. Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. What you claim is a near statistical impossibility.


There is also the anomaly of Trump winning almost all of the bellwether precincts that usually guarantee a presidential victory, and yet, this time it doesn’t happen.
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