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Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:25 pm to MrCarton
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We will keep spending. On entitlements for late comers who are seeking left wing politicians and more enticements.
You know you can curb this without sending military (with tanks and snipers! ) to the border, right?
Scenario: Concurrently EO a freeze on any entitlement programs that cannot be proven to be an American, hire temp staff for 30 days to man the border, hire temp staff for 30 days to then process any illegal in this country to be a tax-paying citizen, as long as they have a clean record and no ties to gangs.
After 30 days, any and all without documentation get kicked the frick out, no appeals, no pleas, no rationales. While that works itself out, shore up the screening process to limit who we want in. And eliminate the ability to be on generational welfare or perpetual entitlement programs without somehow being a productful member of society (for all in this country). No due process to illegals, kick em out.
Gains: Cut losses on future entitlement leeching, less cost for ICE and all the court and jail costs for housing illegals as they appeal. Gives an opportunity to get income tax, while empowering some who really care to get out of the shadows and rise up. Saves cost on a wall or tanks and snipers
Cons: Initial outcry, protest (these are happening anyway), requests for services (hence restricting the entitlement programs), illegals can request minimum wage (ag will take a hit), initial cost to dump those who are illegal or criminals out.
Solve the problem, not waste money.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:26 pm to Parmen
That wall is never going to be built and you guys know it.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:26 pm to Montezuma
Ok, here's the deal. You end entitlement spending for immigrants. I'll end the wars. If you beat me to it, I'll admit the Army doesn't have to guard the borders.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:30 pm to MrCarton
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Ok, here's the deal. You end entitlement spending for immigrants. I'll end the wars. If you beat me to it, I'll admit the Army doesn't have to guard the borders.
So you still don't solve the immigration issue. Typical. Don't want to actually get shite done. Now you want to pull a Barry and leave the vacuum too.
Just. Like. The. Dems.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:33 pm to Parmen
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It should be a complete war time type military border with barbed wire on top the wall, snipers, spotlights, helicopters and jets patrolling overhead, tanks and humvees patrolling inside the perimeter, thermal scanning underground for tunnels, etc
You willing to pay 10% more in taxes?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:36 pm to Tactical1
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That wall is never going to be built and you guys know it.
I never expected it to, nor do I want it. A solid wall is a waste of resources. They do, however, need far more resources on the border like surveillance equipment and boots on the ground.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:39 pm to Parmen
Part of the point of the wall is to reduce resources needed to secure the border. It shouldn’t need to be “manned” if it is built right, dumby.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:43 pm to Parmen
I’d build Hadrian’s Wall V2.0. you wanna stop the vast majority of this bs? Do that and militarize it. Drugs. Illegals. Wipe out the cartels. A border with a third world shithole has gotten us nowhere. Lots of OTMS cross there. We need to tighten up on work and student visas also.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:44 pm to Parmen
Bring home our troops from the middle east and actually have them protect this great country at the border
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:45 pm to Parmen
Fine by me. I agree. Bring men home to man border with Mexico.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:52 pm to Montezuma
You STILL don't solve the immigration issue AND your basically inviting another 9-11, a sub prime mortgage crash, the dust bowl, and civil war. I won't even get into the student loan crisis.
Just. Like. All. Those. People.
Just. Like. All. Those. People.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 6:53 pm to SUB
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It shouldn’t need to be “manned” if it is built right, dumby.
Well this is just retarded.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:18 pm to SDVTiger
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Agreed. Another 200 miles going up this year
yeah no its not. none of the prototypes have been selected as the wall.
you and Trump, are both lying about fencing schedule for repairs during the bush and obama years.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:53 pm to SUB
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It shouldn’t need to be “manned” if it is built right, dumby.
you still need people at the bottleneck points and even manning it SHOULD anyone get over or under. It does not mean it still will not be a great deterrent. the wall helps the men along it.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 pm to Fat Bastard
I cannot believe leftists are as stupid as their anti wall bullshite.
You put censors on it and staff to man it and nobody is getting across it.
You put censors on it and staff to man it and nobody is getting across it.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:54 pm to Parmen
quote:The Founders felt it was ideologically-important to guarantee that even the terminally-stupid would have the right to express their political opinions.
Once we have the Wall built, we should should have the Army man it
They probably never even considered the hours of entertainment their decision would provide for everyone else.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:57 pm to Parmen
It should be electrified like the T Rex enclosure in Jurassic Park.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:09 pm to Parmen
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Once we have the Wall built, we should should have the Army man it
This is an interesting idea. I would like to combine that by sending 18-20 year olds there for 2 years of military training. Give them $10,000 per year of service towards college tuition. They would get $20k for 2 years service.
They would already be trained in the event our country needed them.
Get Trump in the phone now!
Trump gets his wall with military support, and the dems/Rino's/repubs in Congress that support this bill get credit for free college tuition for the first 2 years for anyone that participates.
Win!Win!
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:11 pm to Parmen
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Once we have the Wall built, we should should have the Cajun Navy man it
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