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Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:50 pm to BugAC
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As i understand it, Vivek already made millions prior to being selected for the scholarship.
Which pure conservative principle did he offend by accepting a merit based scholarship despite not having a financial need for it according to hack progressive propagandist Medhi Hasan?
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The weird thing was him trying to hide the fact he received a Soros scholarship
Probably because of how obvious it was that people would call it a "Soros scholarship" with intent to imply connection to the sith lord George and not these people
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Paul Soros and his wife, Daisy Soros, founded The Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans, which provides funding for graduate degrees for immigrants and the children of immigrants.[1] Each year, thirty students are awarded a fellowship of up to $90,000 to cover two years of graduate tuition, as well as living and other expenses.[3] The fellows may study any subject they wish at any American university.[3] In order to be awarded the fellowship, students must demonstrate a unique "idea or talent," have accomplished something concrete through long term effort, and have been involved with the government or other organization dedicated to the ideals of the U.S. Bill of Rights.[3]
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:52 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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but Vivek is a serious candidate
Listen to him and all you'll hear is:
I'm the only one that can do this
I'm the only one that can do that
I'm the only one
I'm the only one
Repeat, rinse
Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:53 pm to GRTiger
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Which pure conservative principle did he offend by accepting a merit based scholarship despite not having a financial need for it
None. Why did he hide it?
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Probably because of how obvious it was that people would call it a "Soros scholarship" with intent to imply connection to the sith lord George and not these people
And if DeSantis received a Soros scholarship? What would be your response?
I'm not nearly as concerned with the scholarship as i am his Roivant dealings and his hypocrisies.
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Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:54 pm to BugAC
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Actually, YOU are the one that brought up Vivek's shady dealings. Did you forget?
That was a summary of a video posted by someone else, and it includes a heavy dose of snark which you seem to be missing by miles. A sincere thanks for proving my point about how easy it is to manipulate literally anything someone says by simply choosing not to or being unable to comprehend context, tone, etc.

Posted on 9/12/23 at 1:55 pm to BugAC
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And if DeSantis received a Soros scholarship? What would be your response?
I'd call anyone who tried to connect him to George Soros because of it either an idiot or a hack with an agenda.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:26 pm to BugAC
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There's more. Apparently, a lot more of Vivek's questionable dealings have already been debated here yet we are kept being presented Vivek as if he's a newborn.
I like Vivek for the most part. I love his rhetoric and abilities in front of cameras and mic. But he's 37 years old and has been a conservative for only a minute. He needs to prove himself to be a reliable conservative before I'd consider him for POTUS. Finding success in public office would be good, too. Executive experience in the private sector is a feather in one's cap, but running a large enterprise is very different from running a large government.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:28 pm to GRTiger
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I'd call anyone who tried to connect him to George Soros because of it either an idiot or a hack with an agenda.
Honest question because I don't know what you've posted in these threads - - - do you believe DeSantis is "establishment" because some establishment figures support him, and/or because he's taken money from them?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:33 pm to GRTiger
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That was a summary of a video posted by someone else, and it includes a heavy dose of snark which you seem to be missing by miles. A sincere thanks for proving my point about how easy it is to manipulate literally anything someone says by simply choosing not to or being unable to comprehend context, tone, etc.
I'm well aware of your "snark" in the comment. But nothing in your quote has been explained by Vivek. Do you have any links to give about your guy and his less than ethical business practices regarding his pharma/medical companies?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:43 pm to David_DJS
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I like Vivek for the most part. I love his rhetoric and abilities in front of cameras and mic. But he's 37 years old and has been a conservative for only a minute.
This. First podcast I heard with him on it I forwarded it to several of my friends. Second one I heard was identical, even when the host tried to go in a different direction. Ok, he’s found his talking points and is going to hammer them. Then I see things from a year or two ago that he’s done a 180 on and I pump the brakes.
It’s not enough to like what he says when he essentially doesn’t have a political past and what little is there ain’t great or he’s flip-flopped on. And I don’t mean political past like holding office, I’m just looking for a consistent ideology. I don’t see that from him yet. He’s in the “wait and see” category as a result.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:43 pm to David_DJS
I think every "establishment" donor, whatever that means, is going to move their money where they think they can get the most value. That doesn't mean whoever they choose is necessarily "establishment," whatever that means.
I don't believe campaign contributions are always by default a purchase agreement for specific policies. Often times the money goes to someone who's platform already aligns with the policy goals of the contributors.
Exceptions abound as always. I haven't really dug into the minutiae of donor rolls this cycle. The real money in politics these days isn't easily sourced anyway.
I don't believe campaign contributions are always by default a purchase agreement for specific policies. Often times the money goes to someone who's platform already aligns with the policy goals of the contributors.
Exceptions abound as always. I haven't really dug into the minutiae of donor rolls this cycle. The real money in politics these days isn't easily sourced anyway.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:49 pm to GRTiger
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I think every "establishment" donor, whatever that means, is going to move their money where they think they can get the most value. That doesn't mean whoever they choose is necessarily "establishment," whatever that means.
I was curious given "Paul Ryan said something nice about him!" is pretty much all it took for the vast majority of Trump supporters to turn on the most successful (actual) conservative in the country today. Well, that and having the audacity to compete with Trump for the nomination.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 2:59 pm to David_DJS
I hope you wouldn't see me dying on a hill like that these days. I'm not even sure what establishment means anymore considering how it's mostly used as an empty "kill shot" in a discussion about candidates.
Either way, Desantis has enough history for me to dismiss most of the trojan horse talk or whatever establishment means in the context of him.
Either way, Desantis has enough history for me to dismiss most of the trojan horse talk or whatever establishment means in the context of him.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:02 pm to GRTiger
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I'm not even sure what establishment means
Agree. Like racism and a few other terms, it's used so much and in so many ways it doesn't mean what it should in typical discourse.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 5:45 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Vivek is for schedule F. He studied it. He interviewed Barr to discuss what laws could be utilized to dismantle the beast in DC. Barr has some intellect even though he is a neocon establishment hack.
Vivek is impressive. He is very intelligent and articulate. He is too good to be true.
I would rather chance that he is another poser... then watch the other known posers and Neocon Nikki, the establishment is pushing now because Meatball failed.
Vivek is impressive. He is very intelligent and articulate. He is too good to be true.
I would rather chance that he is another poser... then watch the other known posers and Neocon Nikki, the establishment is pushing now because Meatball failed.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:23 pm to GhostOfFreedom
Vivek was on Dave Smith's "Part of the Problem" podcast. He held up pretty well
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:32 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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I am still a Trump first guy, but Vivek is a serious candidate.
Just perfect
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